danez71
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Look for mandatory buy-back, or some other name for confiscation, across all of California, within 2 years.
And it will work.
LOL.... care to make a wager on that?
Look for mandatory buy-back, or some other name for confiscation, across all of California, within 2 years.
And it will work.
LOL.... care to make a wager on that?
Guv. Jerry Brown has rejected some of these elements in the past. There is no guarantee he will sign anything and every thing the legislature sends his direction.
We need to send him letters.
Sorry but you couldn't pay me to live in CA. And it's got very little to do with gun control.
It's like NYC - some people can't imagine not living in it, others can't imagine living there. From my perspective, it's a vibrant, unique, expensive, well used and poorly maintained trash container. In more ways than one. No offense
CA will surely go it's own way, as long as the 2A constitutional challenges are not successful. I highly doubt that this would result in less crime - just the opposite.
There will be serious political fallout for enacting these pieces of legislation.
I would expect that some major makers would pull out of CA completely and refuse to bid LEO contracts. Unfortunately others will not and that will become an issue as some attempt to boycott them nationally.
The courts will get more than enough suits to overturn on Constitutional grounds.
The public who is most affected by their loss of the use of firearms will turn to other weapons. That happened in inner cities when the local jurisdictions outlawed automatic knives and they weren't available. The gangs started carrying small caliber firearms, and it only got worse. People will start arming themselves with other devices and it's going to be a hotbed for security sales.
Unfortunately, there will also be some who can't handle the situation and express their anger by acting it out in violence against those they feel are oppressing them. Expect MORE shootings which will only feed the antis who will say "We told you so." It will be ample evidence you can't stop a determined human from getting weapons but common sense isn't the coin of the realm in a state were everyone is a special snowflake deserving entitlement. What people forget is that the snow plows of progress push them all to the curb.
The improvement of 2A rights has been the trend for a long time - CA will not be able keep these laws on the books and it will be shown to be a disaster for the anti's.
I love the folks who think CA will simply "let them leave" when it gets too bad, as though their freedom of movement will not have been restricted long before then.
And how is California going to prevent people from exiting the state?
What is going to happen to restrict their movement that won't be struck down by the courts?
Maybe I lack imagination but I can't see that happening.
Anyway, enough people don't give a thought to firearms ownership that will stay in that state so that any exodus of gun owners won't bother the politicians --- in fact it may overjoy them.
I've spent 6 months on a project in San Jose, commuting to San Fran 2-3 times a week. Had plenty of time to explore the state.I'm very glad to hear that! CA already has far too many people. Your comments suggest you have no idea about CA though. It's by far the most diverse state in the union. From big cities, to farming and ranching to the High Sierras, to desolate desert to snowy mountains to gorgeous beaches. Some seem to think that CA is one huge city -- they couldn't be more wrong.
Also plenty of extremely shallow, narcissistic, superficial people incapable of development a strong relationship - romantic or friendship - with another person. Perhaps not in the rural CA but hordes of them in the coastal areas.
Plus, lots of illegal aliens... lots of crazies... too many cars... too high rents... too many druggies... too many people that need stronger anti-psychotics... too much of everything not related to nature.
Very important point.Guv. Jerry Brown has rejected some of these elements in the past. There is no guarantee he will sign anything and every thing the legislature sends his direction.
We need to send him letters.
I hear constantly about people carrying around here even though permits aren't issued to regular folks. I wouldn't be surprised if the percentage is close to what it would be if we could get permits. I don't know what the penalty is if they get caught.My huge question which is becoming more and more germane is "when does it become too much that people simply stop complying?"
Why would ANTI-gun Californians move to Idaho?!I wish Idaho would pass a law that only 2A friendly Californians are allowed to move here! Right now it seems most who come here are of the gun grabbing variety. They are shocked at the way we live here so they want to impose their draconian mindset.
Criminals will NEVER stop using firearms -- no matter what the silly law might demand.
Yep, we are overdue for another big earthquake. But having been through several it's not like what happens after a hurricane... yes, you have to turn off the gas for a few days and also have no electricity for that period, and some people's homes completely collapse but that is a small number and you can mitigate against it by having a single-story frame house in a flat area, but anyway the Red Cross etc make shelters in school gyms etc for people who don't have friends or family they can move in with.When the earth moves again and the cities go dark every night, the animals will rule. I spent several weeks on a "relief trip" in South Florida after hurricane Andrew. Beside it being completely dark all over, trash piles were 6 feet high in places within 4 weeks. If you were not armed you better be dug in before dark. Even the military which was everywhere stayed inside their perimeter until daylight. Fools don't recognize their foolishness until it's late in the game. Joe
There's also a choice to move. Which I am considering.Given the state of bills to come, people are going to have to make a decision. Either resist and run the risk of being a felon in waiting or get on their knees and be a slave!
The choice is yours, my bet is that at least 99% of CA gun owners will get on their knees.
A half dozen pmags (AR 5.56 or GL9 17's) is my standard gun forum wager offer
California is a lost cause
It's by far the most diverse state in the union. From big cities, to farming and ranching to the High Sierras, to desolate desert to snowy mountains to gorgeous beaches. Some seem to think that CA is one huge city -- they couldn't be more wrong.
LOL.... care to make a wager on that?
The choice is yours, my bet is that at least 99% of CA gun owners will get on their knees.
... I don't like Starbucks. It tastes burnt to me.
IF California actually had a decent number of people who cared about their Rights and Liberties, and IF those people left, it would end up helping 'our' cause by reducing the number of votes CA carries in the House of Representatives and their delegate number for POTUS. But I don't believe CA has that many people who care enough about their Rights and Liberties to do anything about these laws, or leave. The current stat of CA pretty soundly supports that, eh?
It really is. My family lived there for decades and got out and I did in adulthood for a short while and also bailed. There isn't enough money in the world to go back. And it isn't just the insane gun laws, it is the culture, the crippling taxes, the pollution/overcrowding/high cost of living/crime/rampant drug abuse/crazy people/traffic in some places, the difficulty to do anything due to red tape, etc.
True. As I've traveled quite a bit in my younger years, I'd say parts of Northern California has some of the most breath-takingly beautiful country in the world. Sadly, that place is under the mind-meltingly insane laws passed in Sacramento.