Varminterror
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Could you add a few poll options? Do you have a different AR for every day of the week? And Do you have a different AR for every day of the Month? A few of us would have to click the latter 
Who doesn't have an AR15?
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Still Shooting
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I had one - an S&W MP 15, with an Aimpoint PRO on top and I decided to get rid of it. NOT because I didn't like it, but rather because of where I live. In New York State, the so-called SAFE Act was passed two months after I purchased the rifle. In order to legally own it, I had to register the rifle with the New York State Police (the same goes for any handgun in NY). As the laws read here, the serial numbers of those firearms are part of the registration - no problem there. The other -and more totalitarian- aspect is that the act of registering with the authorities gives those authorities the "right" to visit the named premises at any time to verify that the firearms are "safely stored".
Needless to say, this is a clear violation of the United States Constitution - it is a "warrantless search". And even though my hunting arms are not required to be registered (they are not in the classes named above), would I want to bet that a "safety visit" would NOT result in the inspection of everything in the safe, and someone writing down caliber, serial numbers, etc. for the entire contents of the safe?
I had sold my two handguns several years ago, prior to moving into NY State, and the MP15 was duly registered. I later sold it on Gun Broker, and reported the sale to the State Police as required.
toivo
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I don't recall safe-storage being part of the "SAFE" Act. I know they've talked about passing something like that for "SAFE" Act 2, but are you sure it's currently in effect?
JD Pinardi
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I bought an AK 47 about 20 years ago for almost nothing, put a poly stock on it, and bought 16000 rounds of Wolf ammo for $39 per 1000, I still have 6000 rounds left, so I guess I won't need one.
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Yeppers, that's me. I bought the one I have the day before the election. But that wasn't all my fault, you know - the news media lied about who was going to win.
Regardless, I should have known better. It's not as if that was the first time the news media ever lied.
At any rate, because I figured Billary was going to try to take it away from me, I have a new, in-the-box, Ruger AR-15 and several hundred rounds .223 and 5.56 ammo. I'll sell it all at a loss one of these days. Buy high, sell low. That's always been my motto.
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Kame B.
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I just had to re-quote this post, because it needs to be said again and again.
OilyPablo
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I have a 5.56 AR, but don't shoot it near as much as my 10mm and 6.8SPC AR's. The power of reloading drives that.
Overrated, underrated? Who cares?? I can say this, the myths of AR's being unreliable and inaccurate are finally dead.
Overrated, underrated? Who cares?? I can say this, the myths of AR's being unreliable and inaccurate are finally dead.
AR's tend to multiply. It's a mystery but very few seem to have just one.
I agree. That Fulton retro is the only AR on my wish list. Do to cost it is way down there. When everyone is shooting their ARs at the range I'll have a mosin, m1 carbine or shotgun. When they shoot their pistols I'll have a wheelgun. I'm an old soul I guess.
CoalTrain49
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I've never had one. I've shot my neighbors some but I don't see the attraction. I do however own several .223 bolt guns so it has nothing to do with the cartridge. I have a very reliable M1 carbine for HD. No need for all of the gear that people hang on their AR's including reflex dots and scopes. Ghost ring works just fine out to 100 yards. DRT.
shootstraight57
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I had one and sold it for a good price. It was a Colt rifle and when I sold it I built 3 more with the money and with the parts I wanted in them. Each one for a specific purpose and different caliber.
AlexanderA
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I bought my first AR-15 in 1968. I've been collecting them ever since.
It's interesting to note that, adjusted for inflation, prices for AR's currently are much lower than they were in 1968. Of course, Colt had a monopoly on AR's in 1968. The aftermarket (and competition) didn't really come until the 1980's. Anyway, that first AR cost a lot of money for me as a young 23-year-old law student. That goes to show how badly I wanted one.
It's interesting to note that, adjusted for inflation, prices for AR's currently are much lower than they were in 1968. Of course, Colt had a monopoly on AR's in 1968. The aftermarket (and competition) didn't really come until the 1980's. Anyway, that first AR cost a lot of money for me as a young 23-year-old law student. That goes to show how badly I wanted one.
kBob
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I used to be well known on THR for my B,M,&C about my military experience with the M-16A1.
Yet I bought one back in the last century during one of the scary ban times, a "compromise" Colt HBAR, that would be one where Colt vouluntarily made the rifle without a bayonet lug. Still have it, still shoots well though honestly it has a low round count for a gun that old.
Run up to this last election back last summer when it sure looked like we were going to have a specific "First Lady" I pulled a lower I had bought a few years back from the safe and slapped together a PSA 16" Mid length with M4 stock on it. Honestlly have only shot it with an Oylimpics Arms .22 coversion unit in it so far. Mainly because I wanted a pencil barrel and all PSA had at the time during that panic was Heavy Barrel.
What I really wanted and was holding the lower for was either a pencil barrel triangle hand guard 1 in 12 as much like my first service rifles as possible or a "CAR 15" with a 1 in 12 pencil barrel but no big Honking "suppressor" on the muzzle (see above) A buddy back in the 1980s had such a gun and it was very light weight and handy and shot 40-55 grain bullets very well.
Given how much of the available ammo is STILL M193 55 grain spec, I do wish someone would make and offer 1 in 12 barrels at reasonable prices.
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Yet I bought one back in the last century during one of the scary ban times, a "compromise" Colt HBAR, that would be one where Colt vouluntarily made the rifle without a bayonet lug. Still have it, still shoots well though honestly it has a low round count for a gun that old.
Run up to this last election back last summer when it sure looked like we were going to have a specific "First Lady" I pulled a lower I had bought a few years back from the safe and slapped together a PSA 16" Mid length with M4 stock on it. Honestlly have only shot it with an Oylimpics Arms .22 coversion unit in it so far. Mainly because I wanted a pencil barrel and all PSA had at the time during that panic was Heavy Barrel.
What I really wanted and was holding the lower for was either a pencil barrel triangle hand guard 1 in 12 as much like my first service rifles as possible or a "CAR 15" with a 1 in 12 pencil barrel but no big Honking "suppressor" on the muzzle (see above) A buddy back in the 1980s had such a gun and it was very light weight and handy and shot 40-55 grain bullets very well.
Given how much of the available ammo is STILL M193 55 grain spec, I do wish someone would make and offer 1 in 12 barrels at reasonable prices.
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I do not hunt varmints or enjoy much paper punching. Never had one and probably never will. As to WSHTF we have the largest if not the largest military in the world plus sophisticated network of law enforcement agencies with substantial amount of duplication, therefore restoring order should not be a problem if anything happens. Going against the establishment is obviously out of the question.
someguy2800
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I'd buy two just because of that.
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Never really cared for the platform. I was originally trained on mini-14's and didn't really see the AR as an improvement over that. Even when Uncle Sam was supplying the ammo, it wasn't a gun a really reached for at the range. I thought the mini-14 was so simple by comparison.
I don't own a .223 because I just don't see the need. My 7.62x39 bolt action gives me all the accuracy and cheap ammo a person could ever want. Guess I'm not interested in throwing money downrange any faster than I already do. If I feel the need for a semi-auto, I reach for my Beretta Neos .22 LR until the feeling passes. LOL
I don't own a .223 because I just don't see the need. My 7.62x39 bolt action gives me all the accuracy and cheap ammo a person could ever want. Guess I'm not interested in throwing money downrange any faster than I already do. If I feel the need for a semi-auto, I reach for my Beretta Neos .22 LR until the feeling passes. LOL
Still Shooting
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It is definitely in effect for handguns, as it preceded the SAFE Act. When AR15 and clones are registered with the State Police, it is my understanding that they have the right to inspect for safe storage. - I could be mistaken on that, but I think it's the case.
I was the first person in the USA to shoot across the National Match Course with an M16 in the 1971 DCM service rifle matchs at the Nationals. Only because I finished the 600 yard stage first in the Leg (EIC) match. That was the first year they were classified as a service rifle for DCM competition. The USN, USMC and US Army teams had some of their members using them.
We all shot handloads with Sierra 52-gr HPMK bullets in new cases; no crimped in ammo whatsoever as we all knew that crimp degrades accuracy. The Navy team used IMR4895 in new primed 223 Remington cases in rebuilt M16's with Bo Clerke barrels and a Redfield International rear aperture sight; about 1/3 MOA per click due to the short sight radius. Front sight widths were narrowed to match the 600 yard bullseye width when aiming.
Haven't shot one or any commercial version since.
We all shot handloads with Sierra 52-gr HPMK bullets in new cases; no crimped in ammo whatsoever as we all knew that crimp degrades accuracy. The Navy team used IMR4895 in new primed 223 Remington cases in rebuilt M16's with Bo Clerke barrels and a Redfield International rear aperture sight; about 1/3 MOA per click due to the short sight radius. Front sight widths were narrowed to match the 600 yard bullseye width when aiming.
Haven't shot one or any commercial version since.
toivo
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I did a little searching, and what I came up with is that some municipalities have safe storage laws, but there is no statewide law on it. This is from a 2016 article:
Officers'Wife
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I prefer a good bolt action and never really saw the use of one. In the (what I feel is unlikely) event I would have the need for a battle rifle my grandfather's Garand is available. While I'll admit the Garand is out of fashion it's like the little black dress and always appropriate for social situations.
MachIVshooter
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I had a lukewarm interest in them for a long time. I got my first, an Armalite AR-10 carbine in 2005. A year later, I added an Armalite M15A2C. I liked them and shot them quite a bit, but it wasn't until prices came down and I started playing with other configurations that my interest really took off. Between 2012 and 2015, I built over a dozen. I sold a couple when funds got tight or I wanted something else more, but I still have a 13 of 'em. Mostly range toys, but my SBR is the primary HD weapon, and I do have a .308 that is geared toward hog hunting, as well as a 22" bull barrel 5.56 that is for varminting at moderate range, keeps me from running through more expensive .220 Swift ammo and smoking the barrel in that bolt gun to only use it when the shots are >400 yards.
It's been my experience that most who "aren't really interested in them" have a change of heart after using one. Not everybody, but I'd say 4 out of 5 people I take to the range who had never fired an AR wind up owning one within a year.
It's been my experience that most who "aren't really interested in them" have a change of heart after using one. Not everybody, but I'd say 4 out of 5 people I take to the range who had never fired an AR wind up owning one within a year.
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