Zerodefect
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I'm getting one. The only thing I don't like about it, it's not a .40 or .357, or black.
Now that’s funny.I'm getting one. The only thing I don't like about it, it's not a .40 or .357, or black.
That’s why I have been out on this one so far. I do wish they would offer a manual safety, but no luck for me, and I’m not upset over it, it just reaffirms that I don’t want a Glock. No matter how nice the MOS 10mm full sized gun is, it doesnt meet my criteria, and apparently even after developing a gun with a safety they still don’t market a gun with a safety. Seems to be really stupid people in charge of that decision, but they have done well for themselves.I believe you have hit the nail on the head with this comment. No amount of rationalization will affect the thinking of someone who feels the need to read about and comment on guns he doesn’t want and clearly does not understand.
That’s why I have been out on this one so far. I do wish they would offer a manual safety, but no luck for me, and I’m not upset over it, it just reaffirms that I don’t want a Glock. No matter how nice the MOS 10mm full sized gun is, it doesnt meet my criteria, and apparently even after developing a gun with a safety they still don’t market a gun with a safety. Seems to be really stupid people in charge of that decision, but they have done well for themselves.
I will not change my criteria, and I am not ashamed to say why. I shot a hole in a boot once lowering the hammer on a Henry rifle while squirrel hunting. I know it’s apples and oranges for sure, but since then I can not get excited about a gun that is not easily, immediately, positively made safe. I deal with revolvers by sticking a thumb into the hammer pocket to let it off cock then let it down with the barrel pointed out and down aimed about 6 ft away, but you can’t go “hammer down” on a Glock. No decocker, no trigger block, no true safe because it will only go to what is essentially halfcock which is still enough to light soft primers. I even appreciate the thought of a “safety” causing issues in a battle situation, but again there are other options that go safe. Even the highly bashed skyy, Taurus, and Kel-Tec guns go to a hammer down status with the firing pin off of the primer simply by easing off of the trigger. I have tried hard to like Glock. I love how my wife’s 42 shoots but I still will not buy one for myself. I had a 17 gen 2 for a while that I got on trade, not for me. There is not an ounce of my 278 pounds that is interested in a Glock simply because it doesn’t meet my specs of being a safe gun. If they put a positive safety on one I’m all for it. Until they do I guess I will just keep looking at them and spending my money on other brands which meet my safety requirements.I’m not in any way trying to put you down but, have you considered amending your criteria, at least briefly enough to give the gun a try? I’m sure you would be able to sell it fairly easily. That being said, there are a ton of recent awesome 10mm’s out there that will meet your criteria too I assume.
I myself have very little criteria. The only criteria is that I want it. This has of course led me down some questionable roads, like buying a Kel-Tec only to have it fail after 72 rounds.
I disagree in part. Yes it was to an extent negligence but not 100% mine...still mine in large part though. It is idiotic to assume that every time a round chambers that it needs to fire, and it is equally idiotic to assume that something which is very possible will never happen. The manufacturers should consider this and make it possible to safely unload the gun without emptying the stupid thing into the ground because without a hammer block, firing pin block, etc that’s your only true safe way to do anything. Glocks little trigger where the big trigger is has sadly caught on, and it is one of the worst designs ever...thus Glock leg. It’s a shame THAT system got mated to such a reliable platform, but alas all it takes is an ink pen, a belt tag end, or a holster retention strap etc to accidentally kill and injure tons of folks who still praise the “perfection”, but it’s the negligence of every one of those individuals, not the one common item between them all that should get the blame....You shot your foot through your own negligence with that Henry, not because it had no safety.
If you fear your ability to safely handle guns, then the fault would appear to lie with the software, not the hardware.
Denis
Just off the phone with Glock VP.
The slide/gripframe config was not developed with us in mind, or for concealment.
Was developed to best meet mil requirements as laid out.
The 19X was released to the civilian market as an alternative model.
One with all of the milspec requirements of the samples submitted to the trials except the thumb safety.
It does not have a thumb safety because Glock doesn't believe in them & has never had them.
Those were forced on them by the MHS requirements.
In the civilian models, gone. Not necessary, so not there.
Possibility of black later on.
Sticking with 9mm for now, since that's the "military configuration" and Glock wanted to stay as close as possible to the pistol submitted.
So- you can either accept it or reject the model on that basis (me speaking).
If you don't like it, don't buy it.
View it as a replica of the pistol submitted for trials, with current Gen 5 internal upgrades, built for durability, and without those damned cheap plastic sights.
And I gotta say, as one who was carrying a 17 both on and off duty as far back as 1988, I don't personally see the huge kerfluffle over concealability of a 17-sized frame.
I've carried 17s over a number of years & never felt the urge to buy a 19 for better concealability.
So, while recognizing that there ARE those who prefer a smaller package, I don't urinate on their boots just because they have a different set of likes, I don't understand the hate on the 19X, and I don't see any reason for all the infighting & unpleasantness here & elsewhere over the model.
Buy if you like, don't if you don't.
It's just another Glock option.
Denis
I suggested a thumb safety option, but....
Denis
Actually kinda surprised that Glock DIDN'T leave the safety on & produce both versions.
People have been asking for a Glock thumb safety for.....weeks now.
Denis
But you’re not telling us anything that you haven’t already told us.Replace “blah blah blah” with “facts facts facts”. Reminds me of a child sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming “nah nah nah! I can’t hear you!”
Not that I’d expect rational talk from someone with your signature line. How’s that Glock underwear going for you?