harrygunner
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Hey, the 10mm is the perfect practical round.
I'd have put myself in the "practical" camp ... until I started playing with a .243 Ackley Improved.
Ha.. yeah, that reminded me of an xp-100 in 7mm IHMSA
You have a point there herrwalther, but while "practical availability" is an important determining factor, it's not the only "important determining factor." Using your own example of a 44Mag being "more powerful" than a 9mm, I have to say that the 44Mag is not at all "practical" as a self-defense round for most people in most situations. And available or not, a 9mm is not at all "practical" for tipping over 45 pound steel rams that are 200 meters away at a metallic silhouette shoot.Practical availability is absolutely an important determining factor in caliber choice. It doesn't matter if it is a rifle or handgun. Is 44Mag more powerful than 9mm? Clearly. But how often do you see .44Mag sitting on the shelf in common stores?
Uhhhh....your position has absolutely zero meaning.
Shooting is itself for a very vast majority is totally impractical. What is practical about punching holes in paper? What exactly have you achieved? What’s practical about breaking clay targets or blowing holes in cans?
You’re trying to justify cheaper caliber choices because they cost less. Bull crap. I can justify my choices because they are more accurate, shoot flatter. If you wanna say “adequate”, maybe. But that’s adequate for you. If I’m a world class shooter I “need” a $3,500 Anschutz .22 with a $1,500 scope to complete.
So I can punch holes in paper in a tighter cluster than the next guy. Which is totally impractical
I have a friend that has spent probably $1,500 for turkey hunting and hast gotten a bird. You could buy an awful lot of turkeys for that kind of money, far more than you could kill in a lifetime. Nothing practical about it.
There are no hobbies that are practical. Now, I shoot and hunt because I enjoy it and don’t have to justify the expense to anybody.
You guys still don’t get it, so I’ll make it real clear.
My both my grandfathers were practical. They had a double barrel shotgun and a .22. Period. There was nothing that they needed to shoot that they couldn’t handle with those two. Everything from rabbits and possums to steers they would slaughter.
You would get either two shotgun shells or three.22 rounds which they bought one at a time during The Depression. If you took a round, you’d better come home with something to eat for dinner. That was practical. They didn’t go out and blast hundreds of rounds at targets and tin cans.
We waste more ammo in one day than they did in a lifetime. When I was a kid we had an old bolt .22 behind the back door. It would be pulled out maybe once every couple months to whack a groundhog or raccoon.
So, don’t give me your crap about practical. You’re just trying to justify a hobby. I don’t need to justify it to anybody. And I don’t pretend it’s practical. It’s not. Doesn’t have to be. I do it because it’s fun and I enjoy it.
Idiots go to Canada fishing and get pissed because they can’t bring back more than a few fish. Why? How does it justify a $2,000 trip because you bring back 20 fish instead of 10?
Chimps try to justify poaching because they’re “feeding their family”. Being practical. Bull crap. They’re too lazy to get a job and want to screw off “hunting” at night with a spotlight. They’ll waste a couple weeks and risk jail time trying to get the same amount of meat that they could legally buy if they worked a job. Except work is a foreign concept
Two of the cartridges I swore I would never use was 9 mm and 223.
So, don’t give me your crap about practical. You’re just trying to justify a hobby. I don’t need to justify it to anybody. And I don’t pretend it’s practical. It’s not. Doesn’t have to be. I do it because it’s fun and I enjoy it.
Glad you cleared that up!
But what’s a chimps?
Idiots go to Canada fishing and get pissed because they can’t bring back more than a few fish. Why? How does it justify a $2,000 trip because you bring back 20 fish instead of 10?
That is exactly my pointIf you are looking for a justification you may be missing the whole point of recreation. Very few people hunt or fish for food anymore, they do it for the sport.
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Every decision comes at a cost, not just a benefit. It's important to consider both.
I think most people would be better off wearing out a holster for their current firearm during practice than buying a second "more ideal" handgun and a new holster for it.
I think most people would be better off buying ammo for and practicing with their current hunting rifle than buying another "more ideal" rifle and the ammo and the accessories for it.
I think most people would be better off paying for some professional training than spending money for a "more ideal" handgun than the one they already carry.
Of course, that's not nearly as much fun as being able to fondle a shiny new gun and enjoying buying accessories for it.
The shortlistRuger Rifle (bolt) 77/44 .44 Rem Mag 7401 680 2
CZ-USA Rifle (bolt) CZ 455 American .22 LR 2110 350 1
Uberti Revolver 1862 Police .36 C&B 340710 350 2
Remington (reproductoins) Rifle 1863 Zouave .58 Muzzle-load 910.006 or 010S291580 ~450 3
These two substitute for each other
Enfield (Reproductoin) Rifle 1858 2-Band .58 Muzzle-load 910.004 or 010S220577 ~800 2
These two substitute for each other
Crossman PCP Air Rifle Benjamin Discovery .22 pellet BP9M22GP ~400 3 Includes pump