My concerns with open carry are:
1. man with a gun calls and unwanted attention / police interaction
2. someone attempting to grab my piece
3. being targeted for theft
...which makes no sense at all.Most OC promoters seem to think that a person who wants their gun, will step in front of them and announce that they will take their gun, allowing you do engage them with your retention and H2H skills.
Most OC promoters seem to think that a person who wants their gun, will step in front of them and announce that they will take their gun, allowing you do engage them with your retention and H2H skills. As Kleanbore states they may just hit you. Well, let me add to that - having had some blade training (no expert at all!), you just get a surprise knife in the back or gun hand slash from someone who closes without announcing. Then what?
That is the risk in crowded environments. So OC in the woods is irrelevant.
Yep.Granted this IS a legitimate concern .... but does it really happen?
A few counties play games with this and set you an appointment to submit the application, I've seen it as much as 9 months out for the appointment. So while you are waiting a year for your permit to CC, OC is a legal option.
Granted this IS a legitimate concern .... but does it really happen?
It would not be high on mine, either.I don't open carry but if I did somebody calling the cops would be low on my list of concerns
Denver and Adams that I am aware of.Which Counties do this? I've lived in Colorado since 1992 and this is the first I've heard of this.
Denver and Adams that I am aware of.
It happened to me twice and one of the two did square up on me and tell me he was going to "Knock me on my ass and take my gun." He backed up pretty quick when I pulled out my OC though.
MAN WITH A GUN CALLS.
This had to have happened over a year ago because the warehouse I work in has been empty that long but one night I saw a guy walking down the street in front of the warehouse carrying a rifle in his hand. I mentioned it to one of the client employees and he directed me to call the police.
I called the cops as directed and was specifically told that it was a legal activity and they weren't going to send a car. Oddly enough about ten minutes later five cop cars showed up.
There was also a mass shooting in Co Springs in 2017 or 2018 (ETA it was 2015 and there was one 911 call but the dispatcher terminated the call) during which a half a dozen people called in a man with a gun on the shooter and CSPD wouldn't send a car because it was a legal activity. They didn't send a car until the guy actually started shooting.
I don't open carry but if I did somebody calling the cops would be low on my list of concerns
Some info:
https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/the-perils-of-open-carry
https://www.activeresponsetraining.net/friends-dont-let-friends-open-carry
Ellifritz is a well respected expert on firearms issues.
Why do people say this? You're guessing, you've not seen this ...I'd verture to guess that most people who open carry have crap for retention holster wise.
Why do people say this? You're guessing, you've not seen this ...
OC is not uncommon in my state, even on the liberal (Western) side of the Cascades. Typically, I see guys (and a few women) with decent leather or Kydex rigs, with and without retention devices.
I only get concerned when the obese cheap Dickies jeans-wearing guy smelling like cheap bourbon sporting a floppy Uncle Mike's nylon holster hanging by two threads from a wimpy Wal-Mart belt with a budget plastic pistol falling out gets behind me in line at the grocery store check-out ... But, as I said, most OCers I note seem fairly attentive to their surroundings and look to have squared-away carry systems.
Why do people say this? You're guessing, you've not seen this ...
OC is not uncommon in my state, even on the liberal (Western) side of the Cascades. Typically, I see guys (and a few women) with decent leather or Kydex rigs, with and without retention devices.
I only get concerned when the obese cheap Dickies jeans-wearing guy smelling like cheap bourbon sporting a floppy Uncle Mike's nylon holster hanging by two threads from a wimpy Wal-Mart belt with a budget plastic pistol falling out gets behind me in line at the grocery store check-out ... But, as I said, most OCers I note seem fairly attentive to their surroundings and look to have squared-away carry systems.