Carry philosophy / perspective agree or disagree with me.

CDW4ME said:

Hypothetical example:
Someone has a 22 mini revolver, 38 snub and Sig 365.
They choose to carry the 22 for a "quick trip to the store".

I say carrying the 22 implies they would prefer to defend themself with it instead of their other options.

Agree or disagree.

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You post this scenario all over the internet. I think what's confusing people is the word "Prefer".

I would PREFER to never have need of a handgun again.

If I ever need to defend myself with a firearm again I would PREFER to defend myself an M249.

You need to find a better word.

If I could adequately conceal a Glock 19 I wouldn't choose a glock 44.

If I could adequately conceal a Glock 19 I wouldn't choose a Glock 26 but I wouldn't feel any more underarmed with a 26 either.

I went through many sizes, styles and calibers of guns before I settled on my take everywhere gun being worn in the pocket of whatever clothing I had on. I settled on a KelTec PF9 in 9 mm in a Galco pocket holster. It’s light enough to not be uncomfortable to carry all day long and even the thinnest pants I have on, and accurate, but mostly reliable. As I am sitting here writing this, it is in my pocket, and will stay there until I go to bed.

CDW4ME said:

Nice try guys.
I have a Daniel Defense AR that I seldom (rarely) shoot; I'd be better off with the Glock 17 that I shoot frequently.
As a generalization applicable for most people, Glock 17/19/1911 (handgun) is concealable under a loose untucked shirt, rifles are not.

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So if someone shoots their Beretta Cheetah 22lr all the time and never shoots their Glock 17, would you say they are better carrying the Beretta?

You've said before you can wear what you want. You are using the euphemism, according to your own statements, of the AR is too hard to conceal instead of Im not willing to dress around the better gun.

CDW4ME said:

Nice try guys.
I have a Daniel Defense AR that I seldom (rarely) shoot; I'd be better off with the Glock 17 that I shoot frequently.
As a generalization applicable for most people, Glock 17/19/1911 (handgun) is concealable under a loose untucked shirt, rifles are not.

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I'm sorry, I thought your response: "A Glock 17 is easily concealed under a loose untucked shirt, a Colt AR is not." meant that while an AR is a more effective weapon, it is more convenient to conceal a lesser weapon for defense and that reason (convenience) was why a Glock 17 was defacto preferred for defense over an AR.

CDW4ME said:

I say carrying the 22 implies they would prefer to defend themself with it instead of their other options.

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A concealed .22 handgun would make a better offensive weapon than a defensive weapon. That is, a suppressed .22 would make a great tool for an assassin. Not very good at all for self defense.

If I have to fight for my life, as in a SD scenario, I want something that I'm extremely proficient with and that is capable.

Neither of those prerequisites involve any kind of .22, much less some kind of Derringer or mini revolver.

I carry the same thing every day, and am proficient and confident with it.

Carry whatever you want to and stop worrying about what others choose to carry.

Styx said:

Carry whatever you want to and stop worrying about what others choose to carry.

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100%!

I haven't read through. Don't know how I missed the thread.

I see choosing the .22 as "preferring to carry the .22", not necessarily "preferring to defend with the .22."

I read literally to the letter, so I had to vote to disagree.

MedWheeler said:

I haven't read through. Don't know how I missed the thread.

I see choosing the .22 as "preferring to carry the .22", not necessarily "preferring to defend with the .22."

I read literally to the letter, so I had to vote to disagree.

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I believe you've made his point.

CDW4ME said:

You misspelled discussing.
Discussion forum, right.
I don't understand: "I'm gonna post what I carry on a discussion forum, but don't want any feedback, other than maybe good job"
If one is not receptive to potential feedback (including suggestive) why post. (reflective question).

Be like somebody posting they do 20k oil changes on a car forum, get feedback, and then say I don't know why others worry about my oil changes.

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Nothing wrong with discussing these things or the topic, and it's not directed at you.

In general and speaking for myself, unless someone ask for my advice, I don't offer it. I share what I carry all the time pictures and all which is a 7 shot S&W 686 or a 6+1 Kahr K40 right now. Doesn't mean want to be lectured by semiauto crowd about how revolvers are inferior, or the fullsize and/or high capacity crowd on how 7 rounds isn't good enough. That's not me soliciting opinions from others on what they think I should be carrying.

I really do not care about what others carry. I don't care if others choose to carry a 22lr or nothing at all... The overwhelming majority of civilians in the U.S. and around the world carry nothing at all (some their entire lives). I would say that carrying a gun in any caliber and size was putting them ahead of the curve, and I would be supportive of it. I am not going to shake my head and wag my finger because others don't subscribe to my philosophy of carry or my threat level. If someone usually carries a larger caliber the majority of the time, but for whatever reason chooses to go unarmed or carry a 22lr for a brief period of time, it's not really a huge deal or the end of the world to me although I understand how others view it like a death sentence.

Again, I am speaking in general terms.

This thread reminds me of a man I knew many years ago that spent more time trying to get people to agree with him than having two-way discussions.

He was always looking for affirmation of his choices from others. I never bothered to figure out why he couldn’t be satisfied with his own decisions.

Not only do I disagree, I don’t how anyone could come to conclusion of the OP. The logic there is, well, illogical.

WrongHanded said:

Disagree. I think it implies they don't think they will need a gun. But also that on an emotional level, they prefer the comforting feeling of having a gun of some description on their person. Which I consider to be the magical talisman effect.

Just my two cents of course .

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I totally agree with you, a person THINKS they properly armed carrying a .22lr that is until the shtf then IF they survive the conflict I can assure you NIGHTMARES are going to follow, ñever again will they think a .22lr is adequate. Sure there are VERY rare cases where that caliber has killed people, 2 of which were person's known by me, both had it coming in SPADES!! I have carried many times one or both at the same time, aS&W .41mag 8 3/8" or S&W .44 8 3/8" while wearing loose fitting clothing, none the wiser, just wear clothing to make it easy to pull your firearm. I forgot to add always in shoulder holsters.

Jackalope 1 said:

I totally agree with you, a person THINKS they properly armed carrying a .22lr that is until the shtf then IF they survive the conflict I can assure you NIGHTMARES are going to follow, ñever again will they think a .22lr is adequate. Sure there are VERY rare cases where that caliber has killed people, 2 of which were person's known by me, both had it coming in SPADES!! I have carried many times one or both at the same time, aS&W .41mag 8 3/8" or S&W .44 8 3/8" while wearing loose fitting clothing, none the wiser, just wear clothing to make it easy to pull your firearm. I forgot to add always in shoulder holsters.

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If you think you are properly armed with an 8 shot revolver, I am confident that you will change your tune and nightmares will follow if you survive the mystical mythical SHTF scenario.

Do you really believe a revolver with its limited capacity is going to get you out of the mythical SHTF scenario that hardcore guys in the firearm community have been prophesying about for decades? If you are honest, that's not what you would carry in that mythical situation, yet you still choose to carry a revolver right? I am guessing because in your opinion and based on your perceived threat level, you personally feel that 8 shots is enough for any situation you are likely and realistically going to be in.

It is ironic that the rational that you use to criticize others person preference for carry is a common rational used against what you choose to carry. An 8 shot lower capacity and slow to reload revolver with a heavy and long trigger compared to a Glock 19 or 17 with one or 2 spare mags.

Regardless of your choice, I find it amazing that there is 4 pages of discussion on this topic.

Take what you're comfortable with, and be done with it.

Alaskamike said:

Regardless of your choice, I find it amazing that there is 4 pages of discussion on this topic.

Take what you're comfortable with, and be done with it.

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Caliber debate. I am amazed that it's only 4 pages and no fights have broke out.

Jackalope 1 said:

I totally agree with you, a person THINKS they properly armed carrying a .22lr that is until the shtf then IF they survive the conflict I can assure you NIGHTMARES are going to follow, ñever again will they think a .22lr is adequate. Sure there are VERY rare cases where that caliber has killed people, 2 of which were person's known by me, both had it coming in SPADES!! I have carried many times one or both at the same time, aS&W .41mag 8 3/8" or S&W .44 8 3/8" while wearing loose fitting clothing, none the wiser, just wear clothing to make it easy to pull your firearm. I forgot to add always in shoulder holsters.

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If you think the 22lr killing people is "VERY rare" you don't know what you're talking about.

I have to disagree, because if I agreed I wouldn't even go to the store, driving is dangerous and I'd prefer to be here hunkered down in my safe room watching the delivery guy drop stuff off on camera.

I sometimes carry my Beretta 21a to the grocery store in Derby Ks cause I like living on the edge lol.

The biggest mistake a Knight in the middle ages could make is say " I don't need to put on my armor, I'm only going down to the corner"

CDW4ME said:

I say carrying the 22 implies they would prefer to defend themself with it instead of their other options.

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I disagree. I think in your scenario, it comes down to amount of risk they perceive. No different than the person going for a walk. Going for a walk in town where the biggest threat is from another dog or a random bad guy, a .38 revolver or a .380 pistol is plenty. Take that same walk in the woods in grizzly territory and the choice would probably be different.