Why I don't trust a Glock

not because it wouldn't go bang when needed, more about going bang when not needed.

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That sounds like Operator Error - if your booger hook isn't on the bang switch, it can NEVER go off

mutt,

There are cases of all kinds of AD/NDs with guns. Glocks are not alone in this. Yes if you press the trigger of a Glock it will go off (but you can get NY-1 or 2 trigger to make it heavier), but pressing the trigger will fire a DA revolver, S&W M&P, Springfield XP, Sig, S&W Sigma, etc....

Just KYFFITFT and you will do fine. I have several Glocks, including my personal packing Glock 26 and my competition 17 Glock (Over 100000 rounds through that gun.) Zero AD/NDs.

If you are real worried, just get a holster that covers the trigger guard and only pull the weapon when you are in danger or on the range.

Deaf

User error, no reason to mistrust <insert any brand of pistol here>.

1. A falling knife has no handle.
2. A falling gun has 1,000,000 triggers.

(If it falls, let it fall...just pick it up...catching it is a recipe for disaster.)

Aside from that, what are the odds that he actually "dropped it?" It was likely some sort of negligent discharge other than accidentally catching it by the trigger.

More accurately, this is why I wouldn't trust that individual with a firearm...'blaming' the gun for going off when the trigger is pulled is sort of nonsensical; that's what we buy them for, isn't it?

Larry

Blaming A Glock for this is along the same lines as blaming a Chevy for a drunk driving accident.

Some body was irresponsible and had an ND. Can happen with ANY gun, not just Glocks.

The family also hopes to retrieve the bullet, which was collected by police, and fashion it into a good-luck charm on a necklace, Strozyk said.

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We all know how lucky lead exposure makes every one feel. :banghead:

Eric Turya, who lives at the apartment building at 1751 Hemlock St., dropped the Glock pistol around 8:20 p.m. Wednesday. The gun, a model commonly used by police, went off when Turya, 47, tried to catch it and his finger hooked the trigger

Read more: http://tdn.com/news/local/article_84e3b91e-f605-11e0-aaca-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1anweEA8z

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another user error...

1. A falling knife has no handle.
2. A falling gun has 1,000,000 triggers.

(If it falls, let it fall...just pick it up...catching it is a recipe for disaster.)

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i learn that the hard way with a knife when i was a child, i cut my hand... i was fine in a week, but damn it hurt lol... i dont remember trying to catch a knife ever agin in my life. hahaha....,

More editorial idiocy...

...when a 9mm handgun accidentally went off in an upstairs apartment.

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The gun...went off when Turya, 47, tried to catch it and his finger hooked the trigger, she said.

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The gun performed exactly as it was designed to. Pull trigger, go bang. Accident? No. Negligence? Yes, emphatically.

No reason to distrust an inanimate object that perfors as it was designed to. Perhaps distrust yourself with a gun of that design...that I will accept as a well reasoned position, and one that a number of people have.

Very much distrust a number of other people with a gun of that design, due to demonstrated acts of negligence such as this...yes, again.

I've owned Glocks for many years. Bought Glock for its simplicity. Like the 5.5lb trigger. No safety levers, no decockers, same trigger pull every time. Just point and shoot and keep your finger off the trigger when you don't want to shoot.

Eric Turya...dropped the Glock pistol. The gun... went off when [he] tried to catch it and his finger hooked the trigger.

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Which is why you never try to catch a falling gun. Very few modern guns will fire if they're dropped, but nearly all of them will fire if the trigger is pulled. This type of accident/ND could have happened with most of the other types of service pistols. If this happened with a Sig, would you have said "this is why I don't trust a Sig"?

This seems more like a "don't trust untrained (or poorly trained) gun handlers" issue rather than "don't trust X type of gun".

Glocks (along with most handguns) are drop safe, not catch safe!

My CCW instructor hammered this point with us.

Of course the shooter's story is just that, maybe there's more to it. In any event, I always felt my Glock erred on the side of being easier to fire than not, which could be a good thing in many circumstances I suppose. It's the main reason I sold it, not because it wouldn't go bang when needed, more about going bang when not needed.

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1. you do realize the story makes no mention of the brand of gun, right? police use many different brands.


2. by your reasoning, all guns are untrustworthy, because when you pull the trigger-they fire

Apocalypse-Now said:

1. you do realize the story makes no mention of the brand of gun, right? police use many different brands.


2. by your reasoning, all guns are untrustworthy, because when you pull the trigger-they fire

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"...who lives at the apartment building at 1751 Hemlock St., dropped the Glock pistol around 8:20 p.m. Wednesday. The gun, a model commonly used by police..."

Get an XD/XDM. It is unlikely that you'll ever engage both the trigger and the grip safety as the same time.

I love my XDM but in all seriousness, this isn't an issue with the gun but an issue with the user. I trust the Glock system as well as any other and it is pretty safe IMO because it won't go off if dropped. Don't grab a falling gun, damage to the finish/grip is preferable to damage to your body from the gun going off.

all nice points and such but who cares? Accidents happen all the time this is just another accident. It is unfortunate that a gun found its way into it.

"I always felt my Glock erred on the side of being easier to fire than not"

I'd compare the statistics with the number of AD/ND's with the 1911 and it's myriad of safety's before condemning Glock.

LD

i ny trigger all my glocks.everybody always buys these 3.5 lb trigger thingys.it's an accident waiting to happen.

When one negligently handles/operates a device and they are injured as a result of it functioning properly, we should all blame the device for working properly (sarcasm). Reminds me of the lady that sued McDonalds because she was burned by the coffee SHE ordered when SHE spilled it. Wonder what she would have done if they served her cold coffee?

Anyway, if the trigger isnt pulled, the gun wont fire. The principle is the same with almost all firearms, regardless of make.

I have shooting buds who are Policemen and Reserve Cops. The number of accidental discharge stories they have with Glocks was enough to convince me I did not want a Glock.

Or any pistol with a Glock type trigger.

Like double action revolvers, this SIG has a long, heavy, double action pull. Which is why I got one and I think this configuration, decocker, no external safeties, and long double action first shot, (or I can thumb cock it) is the way to go for a service auto pistol.

Sapper771 said:

When one negligently handles/operates a device and they are injured as a result of it functioning properly, we should all blame the device for working properly (sarcasm). Reminds me of the lady that sued McDonalds because she was burned by the coffee SHE ordered when SHE spilled it. Wonder what she would have done if they served her cold coffee?

Anyway, if the trigger isnt pulled, the gun wont fire. The principle is the same with almost all firearms, regardless of make.

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I don't think coffee should be capable of third degree burns that require you to have a skin graft when spilled. There's hot and there is "HOLY F*** I JUST SPILLED MOLTEN LAVA ON MY LEG". Which was the case with the woman spilling her coffee.

We've already discussed the wisdom of trying to catch a falling gun. So, agreed:

Lesson 1--Don't drop guns.
Lesson 2--If you do drop the gun, don't try to catch it.

The OP says, "I always felt my Glock erred on the side of being easier to fire than not..." A New York 2 trigger will solve that; it'll cost you $2 and takes 5 min to install.

Of course, if a SIG is cheaper than $2, just get that.

I've never once heard of a Negligent Discharge, Accidental Discharge, Magical Discharge, Divine Discharge or any other kind of Discharge from a Glock that wasn't somehow caused by a finger on the trigger.

Glocks are painstakingly engineered and purposely designed to fire when the trigger is pulled.

They are designed for 'Combat' and to be kept in a good holster that covers the trigger completely.

Therefore, if someone finds their design to be too intimidating or it just makes them too nervous to own or carry one, there are lots of other types of handguns available.

To say you don't 'Trust' a Glock is to say you don't trust 'yourself' and your own gun-handling skills.

For me, it's exactly the opposite. Load a Glock's mag and chamber a round and put it in a good holster that covers the trigger and you're A-Ok.

What I 'Trust' is if I ever have to draw it from its holster in a moment's notice to save my life or the life of a loved one, I know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that it 'will' fire.

Keep your finger off of the trigger until you are on target. Works extremely well with any firearm.

There...fixed it.

Just my .02,
LeonCarr

Just wondering how many people here have dropped a firearm. Just because you dropped it doesn't mean you were being careless. In theory I would agree let it hit the floor. However it is second nature to try to catch whatever you dropped.