pikid89
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Now Cuomo is acting like theyre doing gun owners a favor because they got rid of the Confiscation parts of the bill
What a clown
What a clown
So if i go to the range with a ruger mkII pistol or 10/22, i am now commiting 2 felonys for having 2 10 round mags? what about every gun store in the state with guns for sale with over 7 rd mags, are they commiting dozens of felonies each?
Totally agree. The most frustrating thing about the NY legislation is that the Republican minority in the state appears to be in agreement. You'd hope that such blatantly anti-2A legislation would at least meet some resistance along the way before being passed.What really gets under my skin, is this truly was passed with bipartisan support. There were some that were against it, but so many were quick to throw everyone under the bus.
Some of what was passed is unconstitutional and won't survive a court challenge.
Also, not until you arrive at the Supreme Court will you see a single judge willing to toss out this law. The state courts in NY are anti-gun so you'll have no chance there. The federal district court and the 2nd Circuit court of appeals are anti-gun, so you won't have any chance there as well. It could take 3+ years to get a decision from the Supreme Court (if it even takes the case which is a long shot) and by then who knows what the composition of the Supreme Court will be.Two things: 1) someone with standing has to challenge successfully , 2) when they do, it is going to take time to get through the courts.
It simply won't happen in a year. It took many years to successfully challenge the DC and IL bans.Further, the SCOTUS could well change, and not in a good way, before any lawsuit reaches their eyes. The folks in NY shouldn't be holding their breath or hoping for some kind of miracle.
What's this 'could' part? It will most certainly change soon. BHO should be able to appoint two, maybe three new justices in this term. After that, we'll have an anti-2A supreme court for more than a generation to come. Game over....the SCOTUS could well change, and not in a good way...
WHATEVER he used to sway the Republican majority behind closed doors to cave in so completely, must have been shockingly strong.
Read it for yourself...I'd like to see a summary, from anyone who knows the statutes just enacted, that includes the following.....
What guns ARE (or will soon will be) still legal in NY? Handgun types, Rifle types, shotgun types?
Garand? M1A? Mini-14, 10/22, 1911, Browning A5, Browning Hi-Power, etc.
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2230-2013
22. "Assault weapon" means ...
(A) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
(I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
(II) A PISTOL GRIP THAT PROTRUDES CONSPICUOUSLY BENEATH THE ACTION OF
THE WEAPON;
(III) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
(IV) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
NON-TRIGGER HAND;
(V) A BAYONET MOUNT;
(VI) A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, MUZZLE COMPENSATOR, OR THREADED
BARREL DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A FLASH SUPPRESSOR, MUZZLE BREAK, OR
MUZZLE COMPENSATOR;
(VII) A GRENADE LAUNCHER;
B) A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN THAT HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING
CHARACTERISTICS:
(I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
(II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
(III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
NON-TRIGGER HAND;
(IV) A FIXED MAGAZINE CAPACITY IN EXCESS OF SEVEN ROUNDS;
(V) AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE MAGAZINE; OR
(C) A SEMIAUTOMATIC PISTOL THAT HAS AN ABILITY TO ACCEPT A DETACHABLE
MAGAZINE AND HAS AT LEAST ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CHARACTERISTICS:
(I) A FOLDING OR TELESCOPING STOCK;
(II) A THUMBHOLE STOCK;
(III) A SECOND HANDGRIP OR A PROTRUDING GRIP THAT CAN BE HELD BY THE
NON-TRIGGER HAND;
(IV) CAPACITY TO ACCEPT AN AMMUNITION MAGAZINE THAT ATTACHES TO THE
PISTOL OUTSIDE OF THE PISTOL GRIP;
(V) A THREADED BARREL CAPABLE OF ACCEPTING A BARREL EXTENDER, FLASH
SUPPRESSOR, FORWARD HANDGRIP, OR SILENCER;
(VI) A SHROUD THAT IS ATTACHED TO, OR PARTIALLY OR COMPLETELY ENCIR
CLES, THE BARREL AND THAT PERMITS THE SHOOTER TO HOLD THE FIREARM WITH
THE NON-TRIGGER HAND WITHOUT BEING BURNED;
(VII) A MANUFACTURED WEIGHT OF FIFTY OUNCES OR MORE WHEN THE PISTOL IS
UNLOADED; OR
(VIII) A SEMIAUTOMATIC VERSION OF AN AUTOMATIC RIFLE, SHOTGUN OR
FIREARM;
(D) A REVOLVING CYLINDER SHOTGUN;
(E) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC
PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN SUBPARAGRAPH (V) OF PARAGRAPH (E) OF SUBDI
VISION TWENTY-TWO OF SECTION 265.00 OF THIS CHAPTER AS ADDED BY CHAPTER
ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY-NINE OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND AND OTHERWISE
LAWFULLY POSSESSED PURSUANT TO SUCH CHAPTER OF THE LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND
PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER FOURTEENTH, NINETEEN HUNDRED NINETY-FOUR;
(F) A SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLE, A SEMIAUTOMATIC SHOTGUN OR A SEMIAUTOMATIC
PISTOL OR WEAPON DEFINED IN PARAGRAPH (A), (B) OR (C) OF THIS SUBDIVI
SION, POSSESSED PRIOR TO THE DATE OF ENACTMENT OF THE CHAPTER OF THE
LAWS OF TWO THOUSAND THIRTEEN WHICH ADDED THIS PARAGRAPH;
The one issue seldom talked about in these discussions on losing our gun rights is where they came from in the first place, from God. The constitution protected our "natural" God given rights, they did not create these rights. Read the founding fathers documents and this very simple fact emerges loud and clear, they understood this well.Without arms, a people can never be free. Freedom is based on personal responsibility and self sufficiency, both requirements to own a gun. When the question why we need "assualt weapons" ever comes up, the answer is many things, but I am seeing more and more, just because if you cave one half of an inch, theyll help themselves to the whole thing. If america loses this battle, we may come back, but the likelyhood thats gonna happen if we lose 1 justice, or if we dont get a strong president and legislature next time, is very unlikely. The vast majority of americans wont put forth the effort to become educated on the issues surrounding them and the danger we are in until its too late. If americans cave on their guns, what other major countries will keep theirs? I hate to sound like a doomsdayer, but I think alot of this comes from the want of one world goverment by a few of our leaders.
I would bet felony.