opinions on small 9mm pistols?

I also own the kahr cw9 and the cm9. Both great. Highly recommend

I think that my G17 is small, and I carry it CCW 24/7/365

My buddy has an XDs in .45.. From what i've seen and felt AND comparing it in size with the CM9, i'm thinking i might have to go trade in my CM9 for an XDs 9mm when it becomes available..

(UNLESS Glock comes out with a similar sized 9mm/.40)

I own a Taurus PT709 "Slim" and a Kahr CM9. Both are small and light, though the Kahr certainly wins there. Both are great to shoot. I also have a RIA 1911 in 9mm. I REALLY like shooting that one. But I prefer to carry one of the other two. And I think my wife is going to "steal" the Kahr, after I finish breaking it in.

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I don't own one, but I like the looks of a Sig 938.

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My P938 is a beautiful gun I bought it to upgrade from a bodyguard 380. The sao trigger makes it much more accurate and it is perfect for pocket carry. It is only slightly larger and is much more comfortable to shoot. I did have a FTE issue out of the box but a good cleaning and oiling and it works perfect now. Someone mentioned the SR9C which I have also but it is WAY to big for pocket carry and almost to fat for IWB but the extra bullets in a double stack are nice to have and it is also an awesome shooting pistol.

Boberg is a masterpiece of engineering.....you won't hear a lot about them, haven't been out that long. Those that do have them.....are glad they do. Compare the specs to any other compact 9mm made, you'll see why.

I finally sold my PM9 after 5 years. It was/is a great compact 9mm. Perfect for anything you want to do if a small 9 is your choice.

I sold it and bought a Kimber Solo. Nice gun but pricey, as is the PM9. I wish they had the CW9 when I bought it. I sold it because I have XL hands (which was not a problem) but I have the thumbs forward grip and during recoil my thumb would contact the mag release, dropping the mag. At the range it was correctable but if I hadn't shot it for a while the first mag would induce a dropped mag almost every time. That would not work in a high stress SD situation, so I sold it. Too bad, it was a really nice and reliable pistol.

larryh1108 said:

I finally sold my PM9 after 5 years. It was/is a great compact 9mm. Perfect for anything you want to do if a small 9 is your choice.

I sold it and bought a Kimber Solo. Nice gun but pricey, as is the PM9. I wish they had the CW9 when I bought it. I sold it because I have XL hands (which was not a problem) but I have the thumbs forward grip and during recoil my thumb would contact the mag release, dropping the mag. At the range it was correctable but if I hadn't shot it for a while the first mag would induce a dropped mag almost every time. That would not work in a high stress SD situation, so I sold it. Too bad, it was a really nice and reliable pistol.

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What're ya carrying now?

Presently, depending on the situation, I carry an LCP or the CZ PCR. I am breaking in the Solo to replace my PM9 but am not at my personal mimimum of 500 trouble free rounds. I have not had any issues yet with it but I'm not at 500 yet. I never carried the PM9 due to dropping the mag, however, but I enjoyed it at the range.

larryh1108 said:

Presently, depending on the situation, I carry an LCP or the CZ PCR. I am breaking in the Solo to replace my PM9 but am not at my personal mimimum of 500 trouble free rounds. I have not had any issues yet with it but I'm not at 500 yet.

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How do you like your PCR?

I love the PCR. I have a lot of 9mms and it is my favorite to shoot. Reliable and accurate and only a little heavier than the Solo and PM9 but it is a little bigger as well. I didn't like the DA/SA at first but once I got used to it and carried it at half cock it was a very nice carry. The slide inside the frame fit seems to give it less felt recoil and I am the most accurate with it with all my 9mms. It is the easiest to shoot. It would be my last 9mm if I pared it down to one. That says a lot since I have several BHPs and a 1911 in 9mm. I'm still undecided on the Solo because I haven't had it very long.

The Boberg is really beautifull. It's a nice gun that's for sure.


For the Rorbaugh, I know that most people do not like the heel release for the magazine, on the other hand - there is no way that magazine can be released by bumping it while carrying, and also when you're firing the R9, there is no mag release button to hit and release the magazine accidentally, nor is there a slide stop to accidentally push up on which will obviously stop the operation.

But if those aren't issues, the PM9/CM9 and MK9 are great little guns, a lot less finicky about ammo, and will stand up to +P

It looks like that Boberg would fall right out of a holster!

I like my Beretta Nano. I've only put 350 rds through it, but with no problems other than two FTE early on that were caused by my lack of a good grip. I put a set of Tractiongrips on it and that has made a noticeable difference in grip and control.

It is a good 10 yd and in defensive gun. I am not quite as accurate with it as I am with my G26, but that is probably the shooter more so than the gun.

Fits in the pocket nicely and just has a nice solid feel to it. I can see it getting a lot of carry time this summer.

I have done some shooting with a Sig P239 and think it an excellent choice in a single stack pistol.
I have a G26 Glock and use mine with G19 15 shot magazines for a package not much bigger,.

I am a big fan on my Sig P290. Here are a few comparision pics of it with a
Taurus TCP (380)
Ruger LCP



THIS IS THE "POCKET 380" TAURUS SETTING ON TOP TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA JUST HOW SMALL THE P290 IS

Do the Bobergs come with the lines in the grip like that? I don't know what to call it.. it's scalloping, its not checkering..

anyway do the Bobergs come like that?

That's one thing I wish Rohrbaugh did to the R9s at the factory, these are tiny little guns and checkering helps controlability.

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Are these even +p rated? Why does the manufacturer suggest recoil spring change every 200 rounds?

"Are these even +p rated? Why does the manufacturer suggest recoil spring change every 200 rounds?"

No, but +P isn't all it's cracked up to be, especially from a very short barrel. Heck, it isn't much of an improvement out of a 4" or 5" barrel - check the ammo makers' specs. Replacing the spring is recommended because it has a relatively light slide and might just wear out the spring that quickly. I paid $4.95 each for replacement springs from Rohrbaugh.

I've carried mine since early '07 and it was slightly used. Looking at the current prices, if I sold mine I'd get all of my money back. Plus some.

John

JohnBT said:

"Are these even +p rated? Why does the manufacturer suggest recoil spring change every 200 rounds?"

No, but +P isn't all it's cracked up to be, especially from a very short barrel. Heck, it isn't much of an improvement out of a 4" or 5" barrel - check the ammo makers' specs. Replacing the spring is recommended because it has a relatively light slide and might just wear out the spring that quickly. I paid $4.95 each for replacement springs from Rohrbaugh.

I've carried mine since early '07 and it was slightly used. Looking at the current prices, if I sold mine I'd get all of my money back. Plus some.

John

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The weight of the slide has nothing to do with recoil spring wear. The number of cycles of a spring is what causes wear.

There are people who have used the same spring for more than 500 rounds and have had no negative side effects from it, but bottom line the manufacturer recommends replacing the spring every 200 rounds.

It's a 5 dollar part so I don't see the big deal.

Also, it's not like I take this gun to the range and put 200 rounds through it every weekend.

It is going to sit in my pocket. I will fire maybe 3 magazines through it every other weekend to keep my skills up with it. Replacing the recoil spring every 9 or 10 months is no big deal to me.

It's not rated for Plus P but I don't even fire +P through my full sized nines so I don't see how that effects me. The round that I like to use for SD is the 147gr Winchester Ranger "T" RA9T.

http://www.winchester.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/flash-SWFs/law_bullit.swf

So far the R9 cycles the 147gr Ranger "T" just fine, so I'm happy.

CM/PM9 from Kahr.