We warned about the slippery slope...first guns, then ammo, now this.......

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... because murders committed with machetes are so common in the United States ...


I would imagine its around the same number that AR have. Yet hasnt stopped bans, regulations, etc.

Cutting instrument murders outnumber Rifles in FBI's stats...
 
I just have to wonder why it is when a bomber blows something up, they blame the guy who did it, but when someone gets killed with a tool, they blame the tool.
 
Here comes the machete shortage. I've got mine already. I might even sell off a few when the price gets high. Quick people. Run out and get one before you can't! I may do some price gouging. :D
 
Here comes the machete shortage. I've got mine already. I might even sell off a few when the price gets high. Quick people. Run out and get one before you can't! I may do some price gouging.

Hoarder!
 
Isn't the baseball bat the weapon of choice for caving in skulls and breaking knee caps? It is going to be hard for the N.Y. Yankees to play with no bats but we have to ban them. Can't be too safe you know.
I'll bet the number of attacks with bats is far greater than machetes.
 
It is going to be hard for the N.Y. Yankees to play with no bats

Won't they have to ban balls too? Some of those pitchers can hurl a mean fastball. My grandfather killed a man when he was pitching and hit the guy in the head with the ball. Grandpa had a contract with the Reds but after that he would never pick up a ball again. So they are going to ban balls I'm sure.
 
It is going to be hard for the N.Y. Yankees to play with no bats

Even harder without Jeter....:D

I am always amazed how when it comes to things called weapons, it is always the weapon's fault for the death, never the perp. yet when a drunk driver kills someone, they do not blame the car, the booze, and in most cases the bar who served him.

Soon, we will be like England where kitchen knives are strictly controlled, let alone guns.
Remember this story from a few years ago?:
http://www.surreymirror.co.uk/Ex-soldier-faces-jail-handing-gun/story-12659234-detail/story.html

We are almost at that point now with kids and pets.
 
We may have been the victim of some bad reporting here; I wrote to Sen. Avella to express my concern, and this was his response:

February 23, 2015

Thank you for contacting my office regarding my recent bill that will amend
the New York State Penal Law to include a machete within the definition of
“Deadly Weapon”. ( See
http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S3199-2015)

Unfortunately, there has been some confusion in the media that has
improperly characterized this bill as a “ban” on machetes. In fact, the
bill only includes machetes in the Penal Law definition of a “Deadly
Weapon” pursuant to subdivision 12 of Section 10.00. The effect of this
definitional change is to mandate that when a person causes physical injury
by using a machete and did so either intentionally, recklessly or with
criminal negligence they can be charged accordingly pursuant to the Penal
Law provisions covering Assault Offenses (Article 120).

I purposely did not include machete in the other “Dangerous Weapons”
offense categories within the Penal Law including “criminal possession of
weapons” or “manufacture, transport, disposition and defacement of weapons
and dangerous instruments and appliances”. The specific reason for this is
because machetes, as opposed to other “Deadly Weapons” do have a functional
use for many people throughout the state including farming, hunting,
landscaping, etc. Therefore, I chose to solely amend Section 10.00 of the
Penal Law so that only those persons who use machetes with the intent to
harm or harm someone recklessly or with criminal negligence can be charged
accordingly.

I hope that this has clarified any confusion or concerns you have about my
legislation.

Sincerely,

Tony Avella
State Senator
11th Senatorial District

I have to admit, if this is correct, I don't have a problem with it; a machete used against someone as a weapon surely should be considered a 'deadly weapon', IMHO.

Larry
 
I think they should ban cars there too. Soooo many trajedies with cars.

Who'd a thunk it?
 
I have to admit, if this is correct, I don't have a problem with it;

Neither do I. I'm all for laws that punish people for doing bad things and if they use weapons to do those bad things their punishment SHOULD be worse. We gun owners have always supported common sense gun laws. I don't see any difference here. There's nothing wrong listing a machete in with other dangerous implements that should never be used to hurt humans EXCEPT in self defense of course.
 
I have to admit, if this is correct, I don't have a problem with it; a machete used against someone as a weapon surely should be considered a 'deadly weapon', IMHO.

Seems reasonable to the point I'm a little perplexed they're having to amend the law now to reflect something I'd have thought would be on the books since they had books.
 
In our Belgian law, we have a small statement about forbidden weapons.
Forbidden weapons are (among others) "any object not design as a weapon but deliberately used as a weapon", wich would include screwdrivers, hammers, machetes, rocks, cars etc..
It is the use U make of it that defines it as a weapon
 
Kind of like a lawn mower blade. French fried taters, mmmmm hmmmm.
 
I've traveled to every corner of NY, and it truly is a beautiful state with wonderful people (well, the upstate ones), but I thank God that I don't have to live there. This machete ban is utterly ridiculous, yet so patently obvious and predictable for NY.

I own three machetes, four large Bowies, and an unknown number of pocket knives. Good luck trying to take them from me...ever.
Bowie.jpg
 
In WWII, Germany forbade Poles from possessing the small grinding stones they had used for centuries to grind wheat into flour. This allowed the Nazis to control the bread supply.We're laughing sbout this but it's no laughing matter. If we are ever diprived of cutting,hacking, and slicing tools, we will be totally dependendent on the government for ALL our food. Maybe I'm just being paranoid and silly but I just don't trust the government
 
In WWII, Germany forbade Poles from possessing the small grinding stones they had used for centuries to grind wheat into flour. This allowed the Nazis to control the bread supply.We're laughing sbout this but it's no laughing matter. If we are ever diprived of cutting,hacking, and slicing tools, we will be totally dependendent on the government for ALL our food. Maybe I'm just being paranoid and silly but I just don't trust the government
http://www.collective-evolution.com...nd-plants-not-registered-with-the-government/

This is happening here too, not just Europe.
They say its for our own good. We can buy Monsanto seeds if we want to grow anything.


And just like Monsanto has done with Terminator seeds that 'expire' after harvest, you an expect that ammunition will be mandated for use that will have any or all of the the following criteria:
1) not be reloadable
2) will expire after a period of time
3) can be deactivated
4) must be frangible
 
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Making poessession of a machete illegal is ridiculous. Many people use them on a regular basis for cutting outdoors.

Therefore, I chose to solely amend Section 10.00 of the
Penal Law so that only those persons who use machetes with the intent to
harm or harm someone recklessly or with criminal negligence can be charged
accordingly.

I actually have little problem with this other than I would think any length restrictions would capture machetes. So, why bother listing them as a "dangerous weapon" or doing anything legislatively. Best to read the actual legislation however.
 
Making poessession of a machete illegal is ridiculous. Many people use them on a regular basis for cutting outdoors.
NY Daily News 1st paragraph said:
Under Avella’s proposal, possessing a machete could lead up to a year in jail.


22-rimfire said:
I actually have little problem with this other than I would think any length restrictions would capture machetes. So, why bother listing them as a "dangerous weapon" or doing anything legislatively. Best to read the actual legislation however.
NY Daily News 1st Paragraph continued said:
He plans to introduce a bill to establish a ban, which is in response to an incident in July on Long Island where a man hacked a teenager to death.
One teenager died at the hands of one man using a machete in an isolated incident.
This is a pretext for a politician to ban the machete. For the children.

If this isn't an outright howling indictment of our society, that we've grown to accept this crap from New York politicians, I don't know what is.

Time to kick New York out of the Union.
 
OMG Thermactor!!! That business of banning heirloom seeds is the worst thing I've ever seen. They actually want to control plant life! If there was ever any proof these people want to be god this is it. We used our own seeds to grow food you could never get from a seed company. We did the selecting of what was good and what wasn't. And we ate like kings. Better actually. We had the best tomatoes you ever tasted. And they want to ban that???? Europe has always been the home of extremism. Pretty much every crazy, wacky form of government has originated there it seems. This one makes the Nazis and the their super men look like a high school science project. You can't control life. You can't put a patent on it.

This world is cruising for a bruising is all I have to say. It can't go on like this. I see bloodshed on the horizon and lots of it. We can't let these people put a patent on life. They have already tried it with water in places. The British took over the only source of salt in India and held it for ransom. That's how tiny little England conquered the mass of humanity in India. All they had to control was that one thing and from there they could control everything. That's the existential threat this kind of law would create. It can't happen.
 
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