Why would I want a .410

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I've never owned one, but they always seemed adequate and handy. I've got a 20 bolt and a 16 single, but my 12s are far and away what I used, but particularly with the revolvers and lever offerings, 410 keeps peaking my interest. They can certainly do the job.
 
I snagged a single shot 410 awhile back for a song and was really excited about it. After trying to hunt with it I have been left wanting to say the least, maybe trying the #4 shot recommend here would change my mind. As it sits now every time I see a fun shotgun I want, i.e. a lever action, and they only offer it in 410 I just can't drop the cash on it. Bring those out in 28 and I already have the cash in hand. I think the 28 seems to split the difference between lightweight, easy handling fun and practicality. Certain 20ga loads can do the same thing but I like being a little off the beaten path.
 
I have had a love affair with .410s for years. I have four at this point: a Springfield M6 Survival rifle, a Mossberg pump, a Stoeger “coach” SXS, and a ATI O/U. The ATI gets the most use nowadays....bad back limits how much and how far I can carry....and the little gun weighs only about five pounds.
I load my own shells on a little MEC 600jr. Mostly, I load three inchers....better patterns from my guns and better range. I have tried the new and very expensive TSS shotshells......say what you want to as criticism, the things work marvellously well. The #9 TSS pellet weighs about the same as #7.5 lead and provides a denser pattern.
There is no getting around how crazy expensive those shell are, even loading my own the price is high. I dont shoot many of them. My feeling was “what the hell, i have wasted more $ than that on sillier things, lets give them a try. Hunting pheasant with some friends, a bird popped up and flew behind some brush....by the time it cleared, it was more than 30 yards away. It was a Hail Mary shot, I know, but the bird dropped. The other birds, closer, were taken with lead shot.
 
A .410 makes a excellent garden and backyard pest gun, if you live where you can discharge a gun with getting in trouble.

Much like @Pete D. , I reload my own on a mec 600jr. .410 is actually very cheap to reload. I shoot 2½" shells. They just take a pinch of powder and ½oz of shot. #4 makes a nice squirrel/ rabbit getter. Sends possums and other riffraff to their maker at 10yds.

Since I no longer hunt quail, I keep my .410 870 in my shed with an ammo sleeve of various shot sizes on the stock.

If one lives in town, and wanted a versatile gun for HD, a .410 with some serious shot size wouldn't be a bad choice.
 
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If one lives in town, and wanted a versatile gun for HD, a .410 with some serious shot size wouldn't be a bad choice.

I have been very happy with the performance of 3" 5 pellet 000 Buckshot loads out of my Mossberg 500 with 18" barrel and my Mossberg Shockwave with the 14" barrel. They hold a very nice tight pattern out to 15 yards and spread out to 8'-12' and 25 yards. The local range uses heavy duty industrial conveyor belts for the target backs and the 000 buckshot out of both penetrated the back stop just fine at 25 yards.

Here are a couple of threads I started showing my results with the Shockwave and 500.

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/410-mossberg-shockwave-range-results.870140/

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/more-410-fun-mossberg-500-range-results.872726/
 
I say get the 410 and see how it fits.
If it dont float your boat trade it off for something else.
 
A .410 is a kids gun

Great little shotgun to start a youths into the sport alongside a .22LR.

Why an adult would want to fool with one I just don't much know
 
A `92 Winchester is a kid's gun.
Great little carbine to start a youths into the sport alongside a .22LR.


BOTTOM LINE as to 410 comparison
a 12ga is better
but so is a 30-06

Each is as effective as the other -- within design range & application.
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A .410 is a kids gun

Why an adult would want to fool with one I just don't much know

I can post a response for that, hopefully without sounding like a smarta$$.
My father likes fine shotguns, and has a model 42 Winchester. It was his squirrel and rabbit gun when I was a youngster. Its extremely light and a joy to carry.
Fast forward 20years and I am quail hunting to obsession. My buddy and I only shot over points. I was turning quail wrong-side-out with my 12ga and 20ga. When you really featherburger one, the dogs won't even pick it up...so....Walmart had 870 .410 express for $189.
The .410 pretty much cured the ruined birds, and what a joy to carry! We were in the habit of only carrying 16 shells while hunting just to save weight. 16 .410s don't weigh much...just over a pound, and don't have the bulk in your pockets.

Here I am 20years more.....and my .410 is a fun trap gun. My local club hosts. 410 only shoots...fun!
My .410 is now my garden gun that I keep in the safe in my shed. Starlings and raccoons get dealt with.

The .410 is inferior to a 12 or 20. Sometimes that's just what you want.

Heres a pic of yours truly chasing a backyard clay pigeon about 60days post rotator cuff surgery.
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Why an adult would want to fool with one I just don't much know

Because the 410 fills all of my needs now that I don't do any waterfowl hunting. Waterfowl hunting was the only reason for me to even own a 12 gauge. Other than waterfowl, I have always used a 410 for all of my shotgun hunting needs since I was a young kid and that is all we had.

Plus if you want to humble someone on the skeet range, hand them a 410. :D

In the end it boils down to one thing, get and use what you want and don't worry about about what others think about it. To each their own.
 
My Father In Law was a terror with a .410. Used properly, there is no better pest management tool. He kept the varmints off his crops, with no problem. I have never seen anybody so fast. It was a long barrel break action, probably a Savage. It seemed like he never missed.

The S&W Governor is a great snake gun.
 
A .410 is a kids gun

Great little shotgun to start a youths into the sport alongside a .22LR.

Why an adult would want to fool with one I just don't much know

While .410 makes for a good introduction for kids to shoot shotgun at static targets, for flying targets, it is an expert's gun.

The recent trend in taking turkeys with the .410 is one example of the versatility of it.

My older son 'plinked' with my H&R .410 at clays sitting on a woodpile when he was 8 or so, and when he saw a woodchuck out in the yard, he came and asked me if he could use the .410 on it. I said "Sure." He hit that thing in the head at 20 yards, and his first "kill" was a DRT. He later carried that .410 with him while checking his traps out at the farm, and just bumping around the woods. I ended up giving it to him later on.

When I worked at a well-known St. Paul gun shop, the Beretta rep invited us down to Horse & Hunt, where he had racks of Beretta shotguns, pallets of shells, food and beverage aplenty, and the Sporting rounds paid for. All he asked in return is that we filled out an evaluation of every gun we shot. I filled out many evaluations that day. I shot every gauge there, 12, 20, 16, 28, and .410 bore. I shot several 12's and 20's, and shot decent scores with them, but I noticed the clays were a little harder to hit with the 28, and more so with the .410. But the guns were a joy to carry around. Since then I've had the chance to shoot a round of Trap with a Model 42, and while I didn't run 'em, I shot a respectable score, and enjoyed doing it.
I don't shoot Skeet, but of course, for those that compete in it, .410 is part of the course. It's isn't included because it's easy.

It's sort of like the reason some pistol hunt for deer, or fly fish for trout. Anybody can shoot a deer with a .30-30 or .30-06, (and there's nothing wrong with it, I have also done so) or catch trout with a spinning rod from the banks, (again, BTDT) but there's just someting about doing it the harder way that is satisifying in itself.
 
I assume you have and located some. Actually being able to buy ammunition for something right now might be enough reason alone...
Actually, 28 gauge is readily available - albeit at a higher price from before the election, typically now running about $12/box
 
Last store I was in had 28ga too. Lots of other stuff from .22lr to 7 mag, even LPP, everything was too rich for my blood.
 
Have you priced reloading it? Reloading 410 is a huge saving over buying commercial.

Primers are hens teeth here local and online prices are a joke.

Might be one to look into when/if prices ever settle down below the pegged out insanity we currently inhabit.
 
Even with current prices, it is still cheaper to reload 410 shells versus buying factory ammo. To make the math easier we will just say that the most common 410 load is of 15 grains of H110. With that you can reload 466 3" 410 shells per pound of H110. And you can reload 518 3" 410 shells with 11/16 ounce of shot. Now finding all of the components right now is another story.
 
Even with current prices, it is still cheaper to reload 410 shells versus buying factory ammo. To make the math easier we will just say that the most common 410 load is of 15 grains of H110. With that you can reload 466 3" 410 shells per pound of H110. And you can reload 518 3" 410 shells with 11/16 ounce of shot. Now finding all of the components right now is another story.
All well and good IF you can find components; it is easier to find 410 ammo than components.
 
All well and good IF you can find components; it is easier to find 410 ammo than components.

And that is why I typed the last sentence in my last post. Plus I don't shoot as much as I use to so the 1,000 new primed Cheddite 3" hulls and 2,0000 Cheddite primers will last me for a bit.

Now finding all of the components right now is another story.
 
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