Current issue 9mm ammo for FBI?

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Government proposals are usually page or word limited

There is nothing in the FAR that prohibits the limitation of pages or words, and the DAR has been defunct for a long, long time.

So why would they be ''usually' page or word limited' as you said?

It strikes me as odd to read that considering I've never seen any indication of it in over 2 decades, spanning over 3 decades, of working with 4 branches of the military, DOD, NASA JPL and most of the prime aerospace contractors, DESC, DOT, federal funded oil & gas, airlines and NTSB, to name a few, that all had to follow FAR &/or DFAR.



BTW, I said and linked to DFAR, not DAR.

DFAR latest revision is 05/21/21 as noted toward the top of the 1st page in the link.

DFAR, as well as FAR, is still very much in use everyday including today.
 
DFAR, as well as FAR, is still very much in use everyday including today.
there are DFARS--FAR Supplements--for all agencies.

I have worked long hours to put the most into the word limitations specified in requests for proposals.

Every one I ever saw from the Air Force was so limited.

It's not a regulatory issue.
 
Every one I ever saw from the Air Force was so limited.

It's not a regulatory issue.


I've never seen that from the Air Force at either company I worked for that dealt with the Air Force.

It must be that the Procurement group you interact with is usually lazy and not want read.

That's a shame as it really only benefits the Procurement groups time by inserting the limitation.
 
I've never seen that from the Air Force at either company I worked for that dealt with the Air Force.
Alrighty then

It must be that the Procurement group you interact with is usually lazy and not want read.
We never thought so.

That's a shame as it really only benefits the Procurement groups time by inserting the limitation.
There are certainly other cogent reasons.
 
Shut 'er down Clem, she's a-pumpin' mud!

I think this thread is circling the drain.
 
The Silver Tip really did do the job it was asked to do at the time. It was a high speed, lightweight, rapidly expanding projectile, with shallow penetration. "Energy dump" was the theory of the day.
Also, if you look at the overall penetration (it went through the upper arm first on an angle--maybe 3" of penetration--exited the upper arm, then re-entered the chest already expanded) it really did as well as could be expected from even modern 9mm expanding ammunition. At one point I went through the autopsy photographs of Platt and figured that the equivalent penetration in gelatin would have been over 12"--enough to pass the current FBI penetration specs.
 
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