scariest moment of my life

Wow if anything im glad to here you are ok. That is a scary thing to think of

*#&$^ automatics! The only auto I have is a SA/DA carried condition one in a holster with a thumb strap that goes between the hammer and the firing pin.

The rest of my guns are wheelies and I've never heard of an accidental discharge unless the gun was modified somehow.

I'm withholding judgment until more facts are known.

I carry a P90 in a Minotaur MTAC holster. I did carry it in condition 2 safety off. I now carry it condition 2 safety on. It somehow got cocked without my knowledge or (wittingly anyway) help. It didn’t discharge but seeing it sure scared the snot out of me. See http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=356752&highlight=elza for details.

And for those that don't like them, this is another reason that I like that third safety, the grip safety. Mechanical things can go wrong.

If I had to choose between the lesser of two evils, I'd rather my gun when click, instead of bang, instead of bang when it's supposed to be sitting in my holster doing nothing.

I once answered the door with my gun in my hand as I always do if I am not expecting company and always after dark, was just a young kid selling mags. Once I realized he was legit I put the gun in the small of my back in my pants mexican style. After I shut the door I turned to grab it and the darn thing slid down my pants. This was with my XD, now at first I was like oh crap! If I reach in and snag the trigger I could blow my leg off! Then I remembered the grip safety and sighed with relieve and retrieved it. For about a half second it felt like I had a live rattler stuck in my pants ready to strike with the wrong movement.

Glad you are OK and no one got shot. I would do some serious testing before I would carry that one again. Until you can reproduce the problem it's an accident waiting, you know murphy and all that jazz.

Good luck!

Wow. I can't imagine that.

I have a P89 with safety, and I don't think I'd ever carry it cocked. I might carry decocked with the safety off, but I don't think it can bump-fire or fire at all without a full DA trigger pull.

Wow glad you ok. I threw out my Fobus holster after I saw it didn't cover the trigger all the way. I recommend you get a Blackhawk. Blackhawk is all I ever use.

Years ago, a deputy with the local Sheriff's Department had an unintentional discharge out of his Ruger. Minor injury to his leg. An investigation afterwards showed that the gun was manufactured incorrectly, in that the firing pin block would never engage. The deuputy had stood pu and banged his gun on the underside of a table. Hammer hit firing pin, and with no block, the pin went forward and hit the primer.

Any chance something like this happened?

There were some incidents a while back where a drawstring got tangled up with the gun when it was holstered. It didn't cause a problem, until the officer got out of his patrol car and the drawstring caught on something. The string tightened, pulling the trigger.

Were you wearing any clothes with a drawstring?

Wow - I'm really interested in hearing more about this, so please keep us posted.

I bet everyone who's read your posted immediately checked his / her weapon...I know I did!

Glad you're okay. Find the slug and you have a trophy of sorts.

Take care,
DFW1911

If your holster covers the trigger and if it has a retaining strap, a knife should solve the problem. Goodbye strap.

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I don't get how a retraining strap is at risk of causing problems, please explain in more detail

"I suspect the bullet lodged itself in my floor somewhere."

You didn't look for it?!?

People give me a hard time for carrying my S&W on an empty chamber. I can jack the slide jiffy-quick, but I can't put the bullet back after it leaves the pipe. Can't put the piece of my backside back like it was before the accidental fire if it happens either.

At least you weren't carrying it down the front of your pants!!!

Okay, pulled my P95 from the safe and took good hard look at it. Mine is not a DC version. Only way I can see a ND happening is a cocked gun being holstered or a hammer block malfunction (which would require a serious jolt to make fire if that were the case).

A DC version being holstered cocked would be unwise in any circumstance, so we'll assume that didn't happen.

Other scenarios would defy many laws of chemistry and physics, so yeah I'm real curios for some detail on the model and condition of the gun when holstered from the original poster.

People give me a hard time for carrying my S&W on an empty chamber. I can jack the slide jiffy-quick,

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Unless your off hand is busy fending off an attacker and you need to shoot right now.

Sorry....I tried to resist. But just couldn't.

W O W ! ! ! Well, one thing you now know for certain, you do not need a stress test done on your heart! this is the kind of thing i worry about carrying my little KEL-TEC, mostly because you HAVE to carry it locked, cocked, and ready to rock all of the time, and with NO safety. i used to have a very old sheridan pellet gun, that had many thousands of rounds through it, that used to fire occaisoinally all by itself. which is why i got rid of it. i hope you figure this out, FAST, so it does not happen again. and i am glad nobody got hurt! so, are you the "boss", or do you have "some splaining to do?!"

Unless your off hand is busy fending off an attacker and you need to shoot right now.

Sorry....I tried to resist. But just couldn't.

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You're right of course. I knew that when I said it. However, I'm still 6'3" and weigh in about 260, and it ain't all fat. If my off hand is busy I can still smack the moron upside the head hard enough with my S&W to ring his chimes so that I will then have time to jack the slide before he recovers.

Oh yeah, did I mention that I've been studying Aikido and Karate for more years than most of the young punk bad guys have been on the planet?

I may be getting old, but I ain't ready for a walker and Metamusil yet.

Another decade or so and I may have to go back to my old favorite: 1911 - cocked and locked.

I'm watching this thread with great interest. Like many others I await news about the ultimate cause.

You're right of course. I knew that when I said it. However, I'm still 6'3" and weigh in about 260, and it ain't all fat. If my off hand is busy I can still smack the moron upside the head hard enough with my S&W to ring his chimes so that I will then have time to jack the slide before he recovers.

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Sorry. I really tried to resist the temptation to be "that guy" who has to chime in with a 'tsk tsk'.

I really did.

Sorry. I really tried to resist the temptation to be "that guy" who has to chime in with a 'tsk tsk'.

I really did.

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Always yield to temptation, it may not pass your way again!!!

Now's the time of year when folks start wearing loose clothing again - someone mentioned drawstring, I'll mention loose over-shirts. It's not hard to envision a loose shirt tail getting stuffed into a holster when the gun is holstered, then later, standing, the shirt pulls/shifts, trigger is snagged, ka-pow! I wear loose shirt tails sometimes and it is not uncommon for me to find my shirt tail has gone along for the ride when I slipped my wallet into my back pocket. I notice it later when I go to sit down and the wallet jumps out of my pocket.

The shirt might pull free of the holster when you jump after the shot goes off, so you might never know if this were the cause after the fact.

Sato Ord is correct, if his S&W auto is a M39/M59. The 2 digit S&Ws do not have firing pin blocks...Illinois State Police found out that they discharge if dropped on the muzzle with the safety off, from maybe 3 feet or higher. They bought Glock .40s several years back...to replace worn out 439/3904s with dead Night Sights.

I'm staying out of this.
No DA/SA gun that's properly holstered in a hammer-down state "just goes off".