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When it comes to protecting from rust, there is nothing better than Eezox:

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Ive been using it for years. Best stuff I have ever used, IMHO. It will outlast any other, including break free (I do still like Breakfree as a second choice though. good stuff), and even the much revered Militec.
And it smells like candy.

DIY_guy said:

RetiredUSNChief, everything you describe is part of my protocol and methods document. I will actually be running 3 sets of plates in 3 diff conditions with multiple controls.

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Sweet!

It's the best way to guarantee the same exposure to elements and such across the board.

I did a battery comparison a few years back using different brands of AA batteries to see how they all compared side-by-side. I breadboarded several batteries in identical circuits so that I could test them all at the same time. It was amazing how much a few degrees difference in temperature would affect performance. By doing them all at the same time, I could guarantee the same conditions for all of them.

DIY_guy said:

Im still puchasing product. I hope to have that part completed by Saturday when I attend a final gun show. I halready have 42 of the 45 products I ordered and have already evaluated those products for

Lubrication (coefficient of static friction)

As well as compatability with plastic

As well as Water dipacement properties.

I can evaluate these factors as each produt is secured but the corrosion evaluation will be done all at the same time so I need all the product before I can do that part.

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This is good stuff. I've read tests on corrosion resistance but not really the other things you list here. Thanks for embarking on this project.

I've become a loyal eezox user But, I'm now having trouble finding the small dropper bottles. My usual supplier at Kentucky outdoorsman just has the large & huge spray cans. I've asked them twice to stock and they've said its ordered but not conning. Anyone know a good source for the small dropper bottles? I believe they're 1.5 oz?
The spray would seem to waste a lot and mostly propellant. A large cleaning patch & Qtips work best for me.
Edit:
Found what I was looking for on eBay out of NY. .95oz needle(refillable) and a 4oz can $18 shipped free. I'm set for years

I've happily used LPS 1 on all my guns for over 30 years. It removes carbon extremely well, removes moisture, leaves a dry greaseless film lubrication, and provides good protection against corrosion.

I see they now offer it in a wipe form also, called LPS 1 Weapon Wipes.

Hoppes oil is just mineral oil. Mineral oil is also the main ingredient of Ballistol.

Slip 2000, breakfree CLP, and tetra gun lube
Tetra gun grease these are the commercial products I use.

GLOOB said:

Hoppes oil is just mineral oil. Mineral oil is also the main ingredient of Ballistol.

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I thought Ballistol was vegetable oil.

OH...and don't forget to toss in WD-40, Mobile-1, used motor oil, lard, and various cooking oils as part of your testing!

Wouldn't want to miss anything, you know...

This is always a good reference when discussing corrosion protection. http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=...inic-Knowing-the-Limits-of-Rust-Preventatives

I use Ed's Red bore cleaner, you leave one item out its considered a protector as well. Mixed two gallons of the stuff for maybe $30.

Rand CLP....

The new Rand CLP blend has a vegetable oil base.
It's endorsed by Viking Tactical & retired US Army special ops Sgt Larry Vickers.

I've heard & read that synthetic CLPs are better for most weapons but there are many top level CLPs out there like Slip2000 & Ballistol.

I like Ballistol because it's CFC free, non toxic & safe to use with bare hands.

Rusty

I for one don't believe in "CLP's"....they aren't that good for CLEANING, and they aren't that good for LUBING....the two just do not mix. Been shooting for over 50 years and never could see this stuff as the answer. Something like Ed's Red for a cleaner...or even Kroil which is a penetrating oil, which just happens to be a good cleaner as well. And use any one of dozens of lubes on the market...(head scratching)

I find the one that is used most frequently is better than all the rest.

Thanks in advance for conducting your test as I am sure we will all profit from it.

I did a MUCH smaller test last week to compare Renaissance Wax with EEZOX and BreakFree Collector. I used actual sweat as a corrosion accelerator. ;-)
If you are curious, I posted the results here:
http://www.vintageveloce.com/2014/05/metal-and-gun-protectants-revisited.html

Carl

Awesome write up.
Thanks!
Your work is appreciated and may answer a lot of arguments about what is "best".
This has been an ongoing "discussion" for decades.

FIREClean

I generaly use my Ed's Red for cleaning and BreakFree LP (no C) for lube and protecting.

I tried cleaning with CLP but wasn't impressed. Seems wasteful of a good lubricant using it as a flush. So for me, it's cleaners to clean and lubricants to lube.

Sport45 said:

I tried cleaning with CLP but wasn't impressed. Seems wasteful of a good lubricant using it as a flush. So for me, it's cleaners to clean and lubricants to lube.

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Good point about the waste when flushing it.

If using CLP as a lube will it keep the firearm running longer, even if lube needs to be added, before cleaning is necessary or absolutely necessary? The manufacturer of CLP claims since it is a cleaner, it keeps carbon, dirt, etc is suspension longer.

IMO, there is a fundamental flaw with so called "biodegradable" gun products. All of the ones I am familiar with degrade by oxidizing. This turns them into gummy residue over time.

Firearms are often stored for extended periods between uses and not subject to periodic maintenance. Many of the areas requiring a lubricant are not easily accessible.

I will only use Group V Ester based lubricants that can remain on metal surfaces indefinitely without degrading and if properly formulated provide adequate corrosion protection and can operate at any temperature a human is likely to encounter when using a firearm. The one I prefer is Redline Racing oil.

Ester based racing oils have extra EP additives without the detergents and other ingredients required for normal street use. These oils also have excellent solvent properties and can be used for routine weapon cleaning. For maintenance chores like copper removal I prefer specialized chemistry. My choice is KG12.

IMO all of the "wonder lubes and clps" are just marketing BS!