Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by DIY_guy, May 5, 2014.
Yes I can see where improvements could have been made. Live and learn.
I have edited the initial post with the follwoing.
9. I am In no way affiliated with or in any way attached to any of the products or companies of the products I evaluated. I am in no way compensated by any product brand name or manufacturer as a result of this evaluation. No company asked me to conduct this evaluation. All products were purchased by me and none were sent or gifted to me for this evaluation.
What a treasure trove of information. Thanks, DIY_guy!
Excellent work! Thank you for the time and effort you put into this!
Excellent information - very helpful (and practical). Thanks for your work.
Thank you so much for this evaluation. The fact that you simply left the samples out in the rain with a little salt spray somehow seems like a better test than some laboratory fog test.
Now I will pick up some Hornady One Shot lube and forget the rest.
And one more thing.....maybe a "wipe off" test in the future. I would suggest simulating holstering a gun over and over in a leather holster and seeing which product resists abrasion the most.
Otherwise, it was a fantastic test!
This was great. I really enjoyed reading through this. I have used Ed's red for so long that I am stuck in my ways but this convinced me to give Frog Lube a try.
This was pretty impressive. Thanks. I just ordered a tub of froglube over the weekend on a whim having never used the stuff. Looks like it was a good choice.
Wow, fantastic testing!
I've seen lots of collectors swear by Renaissance Wax. It hasn't worked well for me but you might consider adding it if you do a follow up test.
That was some endeavor. You put a lot of thought, planning and effort into that project, and you would seem to have put to rest a whole lot of unsupported assertions about the "best of the best" cleaners, lubricants and protectants.
We all owe you a great big debt of thanks for this most worthy effort. I am sending the link to all my gun-owning friends.
Thank you so much.
(from a Liberal Democrat who hates any encroachments upon the Second Amendment)
I believe this should be made a sticky for the valuable information provided. This can put to rest all of the 'best lube' threads that always pop up.
I disagree Larry. I did not evaluate ALL available products so there is room for chest thumping fanboyism and tape measure contests. ;-)
Wow, that was a lot of observances, and a job well done.
I have been in the process of cleaning/lubing every firearm in My vault, I can see where I will be going back through the ones I have got done and removing lubes and going back in with "Hoppes one shot" as that "MIGHT" be on the shelf at the local sporting goods store. I was in there the other day and I looked specifically for Frog Lube, nope, none of that in there.
If not, I`ll wait until I get to Billings again.
Nice job, thank you. I have been using my regular brand for decades. Was fine for my single action and lever guns. Just got an AR and been debating what to use for a lube. Your test helped me decide, I'll be trying some frog lube.
MRMARTY51, One Shot is made by Hornady, NOT Hoppe's. If you go shopping for Hoppe's One shot you are bound to get stares and a question asking if you want Hoppe's or One shot.
I'll be directing all of my fellow shooters to this thread.
Thanks for your work!
I'll take the Eezox if you don't want it..
Great testing put forth,
Thanks for sharing,
I would gladly get rid of it since it performed very poorly in nearly every evaluation, melted plastic and smells to high heavens. As a gun care product I have no use for it based on all I have observed. With that being said, I may conduct future evaluations where I would include it but other than that cannot imagine any application where I would use it since there are a host of products far superior in every regard. Hoppe’s and WD 40 (regular) and others performed in a superior fashion to the Ezzox. Based on my observation, I overpaid for a poor performer.
So, what would you recommend as a go to for everything?
Looks to me like Frog Lube or Hornady One Shot with One Shot slightly ahead on protection.
Silent stalker I would not be so bold as to suggest a single product for everything. I dont think anybody (except a fan boy) would do such a thing.
An old revolver, A ML, A shotgun, A 911, An AR-15 or all the other firearms all all a bit different and I dont know if there really is one product that will do everything for any gun. As I posted in the final thoughts, if you are happy with your current product, dont change a thing.
That said, I will be using more Hornady One Shot on my weapons than the other products I had been using. But at time I will use the frog lube and for longer term gun storage (and certainly on a host of tools and outdoor applications) I will use the WD 40 specialist.
Ive received a number of messages asking what the 3 top performing products look like when dispensed. I will answer that here.
Frog Lube (in this variety) is a Green and runny product. It needs to be spread around and wiped off gun parts.
WD 40 Specialist is a spray that is thick. It reminds me of a non-stick cooking spray. It needs to be spread around and wiped off (or it could be left on in excess depending on the application)
One shot comes out of the can clear and quickly disappears. By the time I sprayed it on this plate while holding it over the trash can, set it down, started the camera and took the pic it was already dried (Hence the term Dry lube)
Also, there seems to be a misunderstanding that the WD 40 specialist that did well in this evaluation is standard WD 40. It is not. It is a completely different product that your regular WD 40.
Likewise, The Hornady One shot gun cleaner and dry lube is not the Hornady One shot case lube that reloaders use. (at least from a marketing and packaging standpoint. I cant speak to the contents. ) The two may be the same and I would have no way of knowing but they have diff names, uses and packaging.
I am also curious as to the difference bewteen the One Shot case lube and the gun cleaner/lube. I am wondering if somebody figured out that the case lube was good stuff for regular applications and Hornady just tweeked it a bit and re-marketed it.
Can I request a future test? Response of each product to heat and cold. You could heat up or cool that lubrication tester and test each product at different temps......say 140F and 0F (the cold temp would be easy to get, most household freezers can go below 0F).
I had considered just such a thing until the logistics of it made it impractical to pull off. I cycled the sled 8 times for each product evaluated. The first run would be at one temp and each subsequent run would either be much warmer or much cooler (depending on where I started) by the time I completed the evaluation, I would have no way of knowing the actual temp. Couple that with the condensation that would form pulling the sled from the freezer each time impacting the results.
Redoing the evaluation outdoors in the winter makes a bit more sense and may be considered since it seems cold weather confounds excess lube. I contend that cold weather problems are a result of excess lube. If you wipe off the lube to the point you think you wiped off too much, you will enjoy the least friction. At that point there is nothing to freeze or gum up. I suggest products get a bad rap when its improper use at the heart of the matter.
Thanks. I just put Hornady One Shot on my shopping list.
As for Hoppes #9, I use it primarily for the smell. To me, no perfume smells better.
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