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Results of gun care product evaluation

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by DIY_guy, May 5, 2014.

  1. DIY_guy

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    You should hear the hidden messages when I play it backwards.
     
  2. Skylerbone

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    DIY, any chance you'd save up a bit of oil and fingerprint the top 3 from boards #1 & #2 on the inside board #3? The indefinite average storage conditions test is solid but for the thought that people may inadvertantly touch the metal after cleaning. If you didn't care to disturb the 3rd panel, perhaps a fresh set of 3 steel plates to see who comes out on top? I know, spending your money is easy...thank you again for the updates.
     
  3. DIY_guy

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    Rather than posting the day of the failure on the thumbprint portion of the indoor plates I have waited to lump the recent failures into a single post. Here they are. Again this is only in the thumb print area of the plate.

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    As for the outdoor boards. Board #2 has now had every product show corrosion at 29 days. Board #1 is at 30 days with the same remaining products still fighting off corrosion.

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  4. Profkirby

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    My first post.
    Thanks very much for all your work!

    P.S. You're killing me if you are over stressing a perfectly good turntable.
     
  5. ohbythebay

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    DIY_Guy...

    You are an OCD genius...hats off to you...your friction rig is pretty freakin awesome...

    Definitely gets my vote for post of the year...
     
  6. DIY_guy

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    Profkirby I have a couple turntables. They are $10 Goodwill items.
     
  7. concorde

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    I'm a little late to the party here, but that's an OUTSTANDING independent evaluation project.
     
  8. Domino300

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    I agree, outstanding work. Are you an engineer?
    Also wonder what state the tests were conducted in?
     
  9. ohbythebay

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    DIY_Guy...anu updates?

    Are the boards still in the wind or is it a wrap? Just curious...
     
  10. DIY_guy

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    Board #1 and #2 are still outside. I plan to take photos again tomorrow.
     
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    Here is an update on the corrosion boards after 43 and 42 days outside.

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    The last three samples on board #1 are about to give up.

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    Board #2 samples are all finished. Every sample is showing corrosion.

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    The indoor samples (after 41 days) are showing more failures. (Only in the thumb print area)

    Rust prevent, WD 40 regular), Militech1, Strike hold, Archoil, 3 In One iol, Kroil, Hoppe's MDL. Mil Poro 7 have now failed along with the others that had failed earlier.
     
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    OP - thank you for these posts and tests. After reading it all, I have switched to Hornady One Shot to use on the slide of my EDC pistol. I sweat a lot and have had corrosion issues with it. Hopefully One Shot will work well.
     
  13. DIY_guy

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    As mentioned earlier I put together a device to capture the dynamic coefficient of friction for all the products I have previously evaluated (including a static friction evaluation)

    Ive tabulated the results and they are similar to those of the static coefficient of friction evaluation.

    Here is a video showing how the evaluation was conducted and how excess lube actually worsens or confounds our attempts to make metal slide easier against one another. The video will show that only in the absolute minimalist state do the gun lubes actually reduce the friction/drag forces.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LeeIfvLm0

    All the products were run through the friction device and the chart below shows how each product performed in comparison to one another as well as dry steel (no lube at all)

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  14. ohbythebay

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    You are amazing...

    This is excellent work. You have also achieved several unique results. The first is which lubes have the lowest drag coefficient. The second, and quite important, is that the lube should be wiped down to present the thinnest film.

    Thank you !

    P.S - I am still glad I went with Frog Lube...:D
     
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    Seems you get a lot for your money with WD-40 Specialist.
     
  16. enine

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    Did anyone else think 'ET phone home' when they saw the saw blade rig.

    For cleaning, I wonder if a batch of 'gunk' could be made up and sprayed across the samples with a paint gun to keep consistent.
     
  17. red rick

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    Very well done and thanks for sharing this with us .

    I hope that Frog Lube gives you a lifetime supply for sharing your test results with them .
     
  18. zeek96

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    I have to say my hats off to you for your time and effort. You did a great test and answered some great questions lots of us have had for years. Thank you again.
     
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    After 62 days the outdoor evaluation has concluded. This past June was one of the rainiest on record. I did not post the failure date of the last three products on the date of the failure so I could lump them together. Here are the final products to show corrosion.

    Frog Lube after 54 days

    Hornady One Shot after 58 days and

    WD 40 Specialist at 62 days.

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    The indoor evaluation is still on-going.
     
  20. enine

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    I hadn't heard of WD 40 specialist until this thread and now found them in Lowes. There seem to be several products under that name, from cleaner to lube. Which one are you testing? NM, went back to the first page and saw it.
     
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    Regarding the WD-40 Specialist, I was just about to put some in my Amazon cart last night while I was shopping for some cleaning brushes, until I decided to read some of the reviews. Several of them cited that it eventually turns tacky. Not sure how long it took for that to happen, but I was curious if the same has happened to the sample pieces in this test?

    ETA: I ended up going with two different kinds of the Hornady One Shot. I really wanted to try the Frog Lube, but it just seemed too expensive to me.
     
  22. enine

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    Frog lube is expensive but a little goes a long way and it rates highest on the WAF.

    I'm using the WD 40 specialist for other things besides gun cleaning.
     
  23. bullzeye8

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    This test is great I was just wondering how the indoor test is going as it has been almost two months since your last update and you said the indoor test was still ongoing.
     
  24. DIY_guy

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    Still ongoing. As expected in a air conditioned environment, little rusting is taking place. The thumbprints are rusting on some of the plates but I expect this will take some time.
     
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    Thanks for this - I am now using One Shot. I have also used it to great effect on squeaky hinges and drawer slides.
     
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