10mm v .357 Magnum
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gandog56
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I got them both! A 10mm Dan Wesson Razorback and a Taurus 66 6" .357 revolver. I can load up the .357's a little hotter, but love the feel of a 10mm 1911 in my hand. Plus its 8 10mm rounds (with a couple of 10 round mags also) to the Taurus's 6.
ozarkhillbilly
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While IMO the 10mm is a more powerful round and I like it a lot better then the 357mag and 15rnds of 10mm beats 6 rnds of 357mag.
It is my understanding in that in real life nothing comes close to the 357mags one shot stop record. So that being the case I had to vote for the .357mag.
It is my understanding in that in real life nothing comes close to the 357mags one shot stop record. So that being the case I had to vote for the .357mag.
Mortech
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I'm a semiauto guy so I voted for the 10MM which is my woods gun . Packs a bigger whallop than my 357 Mag and ammo isn't that hard to find at all .
General Geoff
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Damn, I don't wanna know where you conceal a .375 handgun!
It's just my opinion, but I think its a no-brainer...10mm all the way. Like already mentioned, they are both versatile loads, but cmon..a 10mm projectile traveling at 1400-1600fps, or a 9mm projectile traveling at 1400-1600? I'll take the 10mm...16 10mm shots from a Glock is no joke either. 6 from a revolver or 16 shots from an auto?
Maybe I'm biased towards autos, but I still think if you are after raw power/numbers, a 10mm Glock would be your best bet.
Maybe I'm biased towards autos, but I still think if you are after raw power/numbers, a 10mm Glock would be your best bet.
sansone
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by caliber I like 357 better. but it is a revolver bullet so the question is do you like revolvers?
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boomstik45
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10mm if you like semi-autos, .357 if you prefer revolvers. Or something like that. With a glock 20 or 29, you still get more rounds before reloading. With the .357, you get a platform with more versatile barrel length. Love both, but haven't seen the .357 do anything that the 10mm couldn't.
However, here's the kicker: .357 is much more popular and accessible...and you can shoot .38 in the same weapon for less money. With 10mm, you are stuck with the price, period. Your only way out is to have a glock or Witness and get yourself a .40 barrel so you can shoot the cheaper ammo. Then again, that takes away from the purpose of having the 10 mm in the first place. For longevity, go with the .357, it will always be around. The 10 should be around too, but weapon platforms are fewer and it may actually fade more into the background.
Of course, you could always get both. However, if I had to pick only one or the other: .357, for all the reasons stated above. You can always hand down a good revolver from generation to generation, too.
However, here's the kicker: .357 is much more popular and accessible...and you can shoot .38 in the same weapon for less money. With 10mm, you are stuck with the price, period. Your only way out is to have a glock or Witness and get yourself a .40 barrel so you can shoot the cheaper ammo. Then again, that takes away from the purpose of having the 10 mm in the first place. For longevity, go with the .357, it will always be around. The 10 should be around too, but weapon platforms are fewer and it may actually fade more into the background.
Of course, you could always get both. However, if I had to pick only one or the other: .357, for all the reasons stated above. You can always hand down a good revolver from generation to generation, too.
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The FBI stopped issuing the 10mm because it was hard to control and follow up shots were difficult. Why would you want to make things hard for yourself if a SD situation arises? I'm not knocking the 10mm at all because it is a very powerful round and I am a very big fan of the .357 Magnum too. I see many here don't like revolvers and if you agree why not buy a pistol that's chambered in .357 SIG? As you know the .357 SIG was developed to mimic the .357 Magnum in a semi-auto pistol. It's just another option that might make your decision a little easier. (or maybe a little harder LOL)
First of all, just because a 10mm has higher ballistics doesn't mean it will perform better than the .357. And, while many on this thread clearly like the 10mm (and .357), there are many more who post regularly on this website who wouldn't go near them due to their substantial recoil and blast.
Whichever you choose, be sure that you can shoot them as well as you can the lesser power calibers you are shooting now or you are defeating the purpose.
Whichever you choose, be sure that you can shoot them as well as you can the lesser power calibers you are shooting now or you are defeating the purpose.
mokin
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L-Frame brings up a good point. If you go with the 10mm are you prepared to buy or reload enough ammo to attain a level of proficeincy with it that will match the 9mm's you're replacing?
Vercingetorix
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"angels dancing"
IMO, whether you choose 10mm or .357 does'nt make much difference; they're both great rounds !; but one forum member's end quote says it best...
" shot placement is King, penetration is Queen, everything else is just angels dancing on the heads of pins"
IMO, whether you choose 10mm or .357 does'nt make much difference; they're both great rounds !; but one forum member's end quote says it best...
" shot placement is King, penetration is Queen, everything else is just angels dancing on the heads of pins"
.357 magnum
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More shots with the 10mm. I have had a lot of experience with the .357 Mag. I switched to semi-auto's over a year ago, never looked back. In fact I would recommend the .45
- less kick, easier to place your shot's-more ammo choices. A lot of the .45- 230gr HP's are real stoppers! The Federal HST and Hydra-Shok, Winchester Ranger's and The SXT. Remington Golden Sabers, Speer Gold Dot's.
The Best to you and Yours!
Frank
More shots with the 10mm. I have had a lot of experience with the .357 Mag. I switched to semi-auto's over a year ago, never looked back. In fact I would recommend the .45
- less kick, easier to place your shot's-more ammo choices. A lot of the .45- 230gr HP's are real stoppers! The Federal HST and Hydra-Shok, Winchester Ranger's and The SXT. Remington Golden Sabers, Speer Gold Dot's.The Best to you and Yours!
Frank
boomstik45
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It would be stupid to REPLACE a 9mm with a 10mm.
The full power 10mm loads in a glock 20 or EAA Witness are NOT anymore "blast/roar/buck/whatever" than a full power .357 in a revolver. Trust me. I've owned and shot both extensively. The only thing soaking up any recoil in the revolver is weight. The action and low bore axis does it for you in the glock.
It doesn't matter if you can't shoot the dang gun worth anything. If you can't place the shots, don't even pick up the gun. If you can't handle recoil, please don't bother with either cartridge, 'cause you won't like either one. Both will penetrate and shoot accurately, time after time.....again, if YOU can. Don't worry about the cartridge or the gun. Both will perform quite nicely.
Better to be downright surgical with a Bersa Thunder .380 than keyboard commando with an HK USP .45 Elite.
The full power 10mm loads in a glock 20 or EAA Witness are NOT anymore "blast/roar/buck/whatever" than a full power .357 in a revolver. Trust me. I've owned and shot both extensively. The only thing soaking up any recoil in the revolver is weight. The action and low bore axis does it for you in the glock.
It doesn't matter if you can't shoot the dang gun worth anything. If you can't place the shots, don't even pick up the gun. If you can't handle recoil, please don't bother with either cartridge, 'cause you won't like either one. Both will penetrate and shoot accurately, time after time.....again, if YOU can. Don't worry about the cartridge or the gun. Both will perform quite nicely.
Better to be downright surgical with a Bersa Thunder .380 than keyboard commando with an HK USP .45 Elite.
I think the 10mm has the edge with slightly better ballistics and usually a higher capacity package. If ammo available is a concern for you though .357 is hands down the winner. If you don't reload 10mm can also be a killer.
As usual the stories of the 10mm recoil in this thread are greatly exaggerated.
As usual the stories of the 10mm recoil in this thread are greatly exaggerated.
critrxdoc
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10mm is a .357 ballistically speaking, just add a lot of rounds in an autoloading format. My Ruger GP-100 has significantly more recoil and blast (sideways as well as straight ahead) than my Glock 20. The Glock-20 doesn't feel any different than the .45acp to me. I have heard the buisness about the .45 being "a push" vs other rounds but I just didn't see it.
Whether you pick .45acp or GAP, .40, 357mag, 357sig, or 10mm, they will all have more recoil than the standard 9mm. This will increase follow up time. Move up to a 9mm+P or +P+ and the difference becomes less significant. When I hear most folks talk about 9mm vs caliber x split times, they are practicing with standard 9mm's and carry +Ps or +P+s.
It all depends on whether you believe FPE adds anything beyond penetration and expansion. Some would have you believe that beyond 125-147ish gr expansion (permanent crush injury) and 10-12" of penetration that the rest is wasted kinetic energy. This doesn't necessarily jive with why the .357mag was considered the metric SD round or the common sense that 300 FPE difference b/w the 9mm and 10mm or .357mag just "evaporates" into thin air.
Whether you pick .45acp or GAP, .40, 357mag, 357sig, or 10mm, they will all have more recoil than the standard 9mm. This will increase follow up time. Move up to a 9mm+P or +P+ and the difference becomes less significant. When I hear most folks talk about 9mm vs caliber x split times, they are practicing with standard 9mm's and carry +Ps or +P+s.
It all depends on whether you believe FPE adds anything beyond penetration and expansion. Some would have you believe that beyond 125-147ish gr expansion (permanent crush injury) and 10-12" of penetration that the rest is wasted kinetic energy. This doesn't necessarily jive with why the .357mag was considered the metric SD round or the common sense that 300 FPE difference b/w the 9mm and 10mm or .357mag just "evaporates" into thin air.
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