Prove it. I show you tests that prove that velocity is unimportant, that a heavy sixgun slug can penetrate as deeply as a heavy rifle, you say "you're wrong". I show you penetration tests done with slugs that are far superior to your Brenneke that only penetrate as well as medium weight sixgun bullets and you just ignore it. I show you handgun hunters, you say "you're wrong". I discredit your tests as incomplete, you say "you're wrong". I give you the testimony of a professional bear guide/gunwriter, you say "you're wrong". I come to conclusions based on factual data, you say "you're wrong". All you have done is say "you're wrong". With zero evidence to support it. Simply saying "it works, people have done it" ain't good enough.
The issue is that you feel, because of your belief that sectional density is the end all and be all of ballistic measuring sticks, that the 12 gauge slug performs as well as the 357mag 110gr bullet in lethality, not that some random large caliber gun performs just as well against bear, or better or that the 45/70 is some sort of demigod able to stop charging bear. I have never said/wrote that the 45/70, 475 Linebaugh or any of the heavier handgun and rifle rounds will not work on bear,i carry a Blackhawk in 45colt loaded with Buffalo Bore 325 hardcast lead rounds all the time in the woods and feel comfortable and well armed.
The issue is you have apparently decided that a 12gauge slug has never and will never be good to use in self defence against bear, going against the mountain of evidence that it
has worked, just do an internet search with bear and 12 gauge slugs and see how many things pop up. Now do another and see how many pop up using the 357mag 110gr against a bear. Im willing to bet that there will be a lot of accounts of the 12 gauge slug being used effectively and very little if any using the 357mag 110gr bullet.
The reason why we are saying you are wrong over and over again is because you
are. 12 gauge slugs
have been used successfully, and will be again against bear. Many have used them, its not a new round.
Also im gonna ask you this point blank once again:
Do you believe that the 12 gauge slug has almost the exact same lethality as a 357 magnum firing a 110gr bullet on a bear? If you do, you're going against logic,fact, and experience. If not, this proves that Sectional Density isnt the end all and be all of measuring stick for lethality.
Seriously if you want to do absurd links to junk math, i can prove that Global Warming is caused by lack of pirates,do you really want to go there?
Man this is like proving the sky is blue to a stubborn blind man, it just is regardless of personal perspective.