Am I the only person who likes Rock River Arms?

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Amusing, he criticizes RRA's but has one that he bought.. with all that so called knowledge you would think he wouldn't go out and buy one...
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Amuzingly, you can't even understand what is written between ( and ), poor little guy. If you did, you would know I don't own a "complete" RRA, but rather just a stripped lower and a LPK, everything else is other mil-spec stuff, since I want my AR to be just like a Colt, and that "gritty" trigger is only gritty when you didn't think about putting a tiny little bit of grease in that tiny area where the trigger and hammer meet, you know, where the gritty feeling comes from.

I guess he didn't see the chart.
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I guess you didn't read the whole thread, since if you did, you would know I am the one who pointed out the chart in this thread.

What is MPI testing and why should I care?
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Read the chart, everything is explained from A to Z.

Damn amateurs, never have a damn clue.
 
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Of all the rifles ever produced, what percentage have used 4150 steel, and what is the failure rate?
I can tell you the time and rounds to failure of 4150 CMV barrels if you really want to know. This information is public knowledge.
M16A2: 491 rounds, 2 min 49 seconds to burst
M4: 596 rounds, 3 min 32 seconds to burst

I don't know how many 4150 barrels have ever been produced but I suspect it is a small percentage overall since 4140 is pretty much the standard for rifle barrels.

So, for those that swear that you can't trust a rifle with a 4140 barrel, what kind of steel do all the rest of the battle/assault rifles of the world use?
 
Read the chart, everything is explained from A to Z.

Damn amateurs, never have a damn clue
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Hey jerkoff I asked what MPI testing was because it is trivial. I carry the real deal everyday you know the one with a selector switch so don't call me an amateur. I built my AR to be as close to my issued model minus the selector switch and I didn't need no stinking chart.
 
Well, I like the idea that I can get what I want or order what I need
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Yeah, but it's just so damn difficult to click on those pull-down boxes on RRA's site and pick and choose...what with the choices and decisions and .... :rolleyes:

FWIW-I was standing at the gun shop door the day the AWB expired with a printout from the RRA site with my "customized" gun selected.
Heck-I don't even remember what I ordered AFA barrels-got a relative that's a gunsmith and competitive shooter-I picked his brain before I ordered as part of my research-think I passed on the chrome lining as I was after accuracy-heck-think he may have recommended 4140 over 4150 (chrome lining aside) for better accuracy?

I wanted a carbine when the AWB expired-I've got an old Colt I bought around '76 with a 20" pencil barrel, no forward assist, and the old triangular hand guards.
Sucker definitely sounds different from my newer carbines!
 
I guess you didn't read the whole thread, since if you did, you would know I am the one who pointed out the chart in this thread.
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Didn't see the big green smiley huh? :D
 
Hey jerkoff I asked what MPI testing was because it is trivial. I carry the real deal everyday you know the one with a selector switch so don't call me an amateur. I built my AR to be as close to my issued model minus the selector switch and I didn't need no stinking chart.
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The "damn amateurs..." wasn't pointed out to you, but rather all the others who dare to "teach" me something without reading the thread to complete my post. ;)

Didn't see the big green smiley huh?
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LMAO.
 
What is MPI testing and why should I care?
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Magnetic Particle Inspection.

I see it a lot working in the oil & gas inspection industry.


You should care because it helps make sure that there aren't imperfections that could cause a failure.


Should you care so much that you spend twice the price of a RRA? That's up to you and depends a lot on what you plan to use your rifle for.

I have an RRA because I'm not really concerned about a failure happening and I'm not using my rifle in a situation that I'm really worried about it.


If I want one that has a higher QA/QC level, I'll probably build one from the ground up with a combination of RRA and Bravo parts.
 
Boba what rifle charges twice as much for MPI testing?
Not trying to start up a new argument I am really curious. BCM, etc are about the same price as a RRA and individual test their barrels and bolts.
 
Boba what rifle charges twice as much for MPI testing?
Not trying to start up a new argument I am really curious. BCM, etc are about the same price as a RRA and individual test their barrels and bolts.
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I wasn't making any specific claim to a particular company or specific price, though Colt comes to mind, just making a general "pay more for higher QA/QC levels, but only if you think you need/want to" sort of statement.


Gun show prices for a RRA Entry Tactical have been about low to mid $800ish(pre and post election buying frenzy that is - obviously prices during the frenzy were higher).
For a similar Colt I've been seeing mid $1400ish to low $1500ish. IIRC, there were some that were in the $1200ish area, but they didn't have the same look as the Entry Tactical.
 
Ahh Gotcha. Around here RRA are priced at about 900-1100 with Colts being right at 1100-1200 commonly available. That is why I asked :) I am curious to see Colts new pricing with their civilian line this year.
 
I like my RRA.

As for military weapons I have qualified with he M1, BAR, M14,1911 and M16 to name few. All fine weapons, some made by typewriter and sewing machine companies. I doubt any of them read the CHART. How old is this CHART? Can any weapons be quality built with out the CHART?
 
I'm not really very happy with my RRA upper at the moment. Due to the BCG getting locked into place when a round is chambered, my .458S upper is sitting at my local gun shop, awaiting a call back from RRA. A second call back. The first time, they suggested a different round from the 405gr Corbons I had bought. I got some 255gr tactical rounds from SBR and tried those. Same problem. The company I ordered it from wasn't all that helpful either so they're not getting any more of my business.
 
i love rra never had any problems isnt picky with ammo very nice beefy barrel chrome lined and i belive most come with the 2 stage trigger. RRA makes on of the best civilian AR's as far as i am concerned. I also heard that RRA has the current contract for CIA and FBI AR's.
 
Still haven't recieved a response from RRA customer service from when I called and emailed them back in November! They can go fly a kite for all I care. I will never buy RRA again!
 
Once again, more hyperbole. At the risk of sounding like a broken record: Where is the evidence for this allegation? In all seriousness, if true, I'd really like to know.
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assuming that they do build for the government, they would most likely build it by the government TDP, meaning an all-milspec gun, which RRA is not - at least not on the civilian market.

If you honestly think someone who works for the fed is out there with an RRA that had its extension secured by locktite instead of being properly peened and staked, then you're terribly mistaken.
 
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