Ammo supply catching up with demand?
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Mike, the guy responded - irrationally and while calling me irrational, then left. Given what he said, I retorted.
If he says nothing else, I certainly won't take it beyond that. However, since he took issue with me directly, over what I initially said, the rotation ends with me. I never sought out an argument with him. He chose to quote me in his second post.
I'm glad you chimed in, though - especially with something as insightful as one of the most tired cliches in our language.
If he says nothing else, I certainly won't take it beyond that. However, since he took issue with me directly, over what I initially said, the rotation ends with me. I never sought out an argument with him. He chose to quote me in his second post.
I'm glad you chimed in, though - especially with something as insightful as one of the most tired cliches in our language.
I probably would not have responded at all Pack if you did not remind me so much of the lawyer for the plaintiff that wasted 3 days of my time listening to his bs case the last time I was on jury duty. I did everything in my power to make sure he didn't get a penny from that case & the rest of the jury agreed with me. As far as your other comments I really don't care to get into all of them because it would just take too long. Yes I made a comment that wasn't very High Road. For that I apologize-I should have been more tolerant-just because I disagree with you & don't like reading the ideology you spout is no reason for me to insult you.
Well, Mike -
I snapped right back, and also not in a gentlemanly way. There's fault on this side of the table, and I apologize too.
As for that attorney, I'm going to do my very best to not be that guy. When I applied to law school just over three years ago, they asked us to write the cheesy "Why I want to be a lawyer" piece that you might imagine they would. I spouted off for three pages about:
1) how people have this lottery mentality about filing suit these days - they seem to walk around with the thought of "who can I sue" lurking in the back of their minds, waiting for something to happen
2) how dirty lawyers facilitate this
3) how this is a situation that doesn't have a political solution - the trial lawyers make too much money, and thus have serious lobbyists - and a damn good number of the so-called legislators are cut from the same damn cloth
4) thus, the only way to actually remedy the situation is for more seriously good attorneys to work exclusively on the defensive side of things - "reform" will accomplish nothing, the battle must be won in the trenches.
Working as a clerk over the past couple of years, I've seen that the defense bar has their fair share of (expletives deleted
), too.
I still haven't decided what I'll end up doing. The legal job market here in SC is abysmal at the moment (the office of career services at our school was telling us that, as of last November, 40% of the class that graduated last May didn't have permanent positions).
I got lucky, finding a good man to work for over the past couple years, and hopefully on into the future. We do general business litigation (contracts and collections), some injury stuff, and he's a retired Lt. Col. still admitted in all the military courts - so we do things like criminal defense of soldiers before courts martial.
You have a fair point about a number of lawyers, to be honest. But I go to school with some truly good people undeserving of the same brush. I honestly couldn't tell you which group outweighs the other.
I've also heard - not to speak ill of your state - that Georgia has some truly bad examples of the "ambulance chaser" plaintiff's attorney. One instance that comes to mind is a billboard in Atlanta with nothing but the phrase "Who can I sue?" and a phone number. Putting something like that up is just lowly. If I recall the story correctly, they also targeted low income areas.
I snapped right back, and also not in a gentlemanly way. There's fault on this side of the table, and I apologize too.
As for that attorney, I'm going to do my very best to not be that guy. When I applied to law school just over three years ago, they asked us to write the cheesy "Why I want to be a lawyer" piece that you might imagine they would. I spouted off for three pages about:
1) how people have this lottery mentality about filing suit these days - they seem to walk around with the thought of "who can I sue" lurking in the back of their minds, waiting for something to happen
2) how dirty lawyers facilitate this
3) how this is a situation that doesn't have a political solution - the trial lawyers make too much money, and thus have serious lobbyists - and a damn good number of the so-called legislators are cut from the same damn cloth
4) thus, the only way to actually remedy the situation is for more seriously good attorneys to work exclusively on the defensive side of things - "reform" will accomplish nothing, the battle must be won in the trenches.
Working as a clerk over the past couple of years, I've seen that the defense bar has their fair share of (expletives deleted
), too. I still haven't decided what I'll end up doing. The legal job market here in SC is abysmal at the moment (the office of career services at our school was telling us that, as of last November, 40% of the class that graduated last May didn't have permanent positions).
I got lucky, finding a good man to work for over the past couple years, and hopefully on into the future. We do general business litigation (contracts and collections), some injury stuff, and he's a retired Lt. Col. still admitted in all the military courts - so we do things like criminal defense of soldiers before courts martial.
You have a fair point about a number of lawyers, to be honest. But I go to school with some truly good people undeserving of the same brush. I honestly couldn't tell you which group outweighs the other.
I've also heard - not to speak ill of your state - that Georgia has some truly bad examples of the "ambulance chaser" plaintiff's attorney. One instance that comes to mind is a billboard in Atlanta with nothing but the phrase "Who can I sue?" and a phone number. Putting something like that up is just lowly. If I recall the story correctly, they also targeted low income areas.
outerlimit
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Sorry I get a nasty case of ADD everytime I see one of your posts in this thread. Too long, didn't read, don't care.
Let's talk about ammo.
There may be more gun owners, but I know for a fact people are not shooting nearly as much. So that means people are hoarding. There is no reason for this at all. They are not going to stop making ammo. And by hoarding you are only contributing to the problem and getting yourself into debt at the same time. It's stupid, please stop if you are doing it.
This isn't directed at the guy who has 1,000 rounds of 9mm or .45 handgun ammo. This is directed at the guy who has 8,000rds and keeps buying more. Get a clue! Stop it! You're not going to defend against a hoard of Chinese paratroopers with your ten cases of 9mm, and if they did actually stop making it in some Mad Max post nuclear apocalypse world, if you were still alive you wouldn't shoot it anyways, you radioactive mutant.
Let's talk about ammo.
There may be more gun owners, but I know for a fact people are not shooting nearly as much. So that means people are hoarding. There is no reason for this at all. They are not going to stop making ammo. And by hoarding you are only contributing to the problem and getting yourself into debt at the same time. It's stupid, please stop if you are doing it.
This isn't directed at the guy who has 1,000 rounds of 9mm or .45 handgun ammo. This is directed at the guy who has 8,000rds and keeps buying more. Get a clue! Stop it! You're not going to defend against a hoard of Chinese paratroopers with your ten cases of 9mm, and if they did actually stop making it in some Mad Max post nuclear apocalypse world, if you were still alive you wouldn't shoot it anyways, you radioactive mutant.
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jacob.elliott
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A few of the people I have talked to at Walmart sporting goods said that they are out because the warehouse is out, but i bet they get it straight from the mfg. i can't see them storing ammo at the distribution center
outerlimit
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I don't know, I hear a lot of people say employees have told them they are just unloading ammo "off the truck". Which would tend to lend creedence to the idea that they get it from a warehouse, since I seriously doubt the entire three semi trailers on the back of the long load truck are full of ammo that they use to stock a few shelves underneath the few rifles they keep in the display case.
seeker_two
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Supply and demand only works when there is a supply....
If you want to see more ammunition at your local walmart the secret is to call 1-800-WALMART and complain for all you're worth about the store never having any ammunition. It has been my observation that the ammunition is at times disproportionately stocked. Some stores may get 100 boxes while yours gets 5. But if enough people complain to the store managers, 1-800# customer service and district managers about a certain store something will happen.
I can't help but wonder if Big Brother has something to do with this "shortage." I mean it has been going on for a seriously long time, and we are using less ammunition for the War on Terror.
I can't help but wonder if Big Brother has something to do with this "shortage." I mean it has been going on for a seriously long time, and we are using less ammunition for the War on Terror.
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All the dealers who are running the price up on ammo ($1 a round) are be the same ones whining that you should support your local gun dealer. What goes around, comes around.
Davionmaximus
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The ammo pricing seperates the casual shooters from the hard core (read: us)
I got the new shooter's supplies catalog in the mail from Sportsman's Guide today; leafed through it, and found Wolf .223 at $.31/round. Called them up -- within one hour of receiving the mail -- and it was already sold out. ALL of the lowest-priced options were gone. I checked the ammoengine website, and it never even made it on there before it had disappeared.
JohnBT
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With companies like S&B USA not importing any more .223 this year it could get worse in some areas and calibers.
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outerlimit
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It was probably listed for sale online long before you got the catalog.
I've noticed that premium rifle hunting ammunition in some circumstances is cheaper than surplus or remanufactured .223/7.62x39/.308.
I actually have to really laugh at that since it was those calibers cheapness which is one of the reasons why people like those calibers.
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