An extremely reckeless situational awareness exercise

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Are the girlfriends in question prepared to sacrifice your best friend for "Moron"'s sake?
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That is an extremely good point and I will be sure to bring that up to them as soon as possible.

I would also like to take this in a different direction briefly. If you were in the situation I was, and you were armed, how would you handle it? I was not paying attention to their conversation, and I had no idea why the gun was drawn. I think that had I been armed, there is a good possibility I would have used it to stop what I saw as an attack on my friend. Any and all input is welcome and encouraged.
 
It's certainly easy enough to just 'walk away and never go back', but think about future individuals he'll come in contact with.

I'd do *something*, just not sure what. Pretty sticky situation. Get with your friend and see what he thinks about further action.
 
Go take out a warrant, He pointed a deadly weapon at both you and your buddy. Moron does not need a gun. Moron will get someone killed needlessly.

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I think all I would have to do is tell his dad what he did and he would surely get the beating of his life.
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Do that too then. Maybe he will respect what his father thinks.
 
Alright I'll try to get in touch with one of his supervisors tomorrow. I really wish I had called the cops then but by the time I hit the parking lot I was fuming. I just wanted to get away from there before I did something stupid.
 
I would also like to take this in a different direction briefly. If you were in the situation I was, and you were armed, how would you handle it? I was not paying attention to their conversation, and I had no idea why the gun was drawn. I think that had I been armed, there is a good possibility I would have used it to stop what I saw as an attack on my friend. Any and all input is welcome and encouraged.
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Seeing as how you knew Moron to be somewhat of a scumbag, and the other is your best friend, had you been I, (and I was armed) Moron would at the very least be missing a kneecap. More likely he would have a couple more holes to breathe through.
 
Jiggle, this upset me so much I had to walk away from the computer for a while.

I have had friends ,and family, shot in the head- You ever read the anti-gun info about how "you are more likely to shoot a friend or family member than a robber"? Your acquaintance "moron" is that guy. Stay away.

Moron is a fool. Do not associate with fools. Morons girlfriend is a fool by association. Bestfriends girl is on the "A" list for fools incorporated. Bestfriend is on the "B" list. Find some new friends who care about their lives. And yours. He may be your best friend but he has fatally bad judgment!

Sorry about the extreme judgmental tone here- I am just sick to death of morons pointing guns at people- It has happened to me once too often.

PS- for the legal guys- is this an "assault with deadly weapon" ?
 
I think that had I been armed, there is a good possibility I would have used it to stop what I saw as an attack on my friend.
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More likely, you'd have escalated the situation. There's no hero move in this situation. You guys are d*mn lucky that no one's dead or critically injured.

You need to report this idiot ASAP - just describe the facts, don't embellish, don't get into your opinion of MORON, just tell someone at his department what's happened.
 
I've never heard of anyone doing anything this stupid. Your friend is damned lucky that he isn't seriously dead. Was alcohol involved? I ask because I would think a person would have to be at least a little drunk do something this stupid. If I was your friend, I would not allow this jackass in my house any more. You should both stay away from this guy. If the girlfriends don't like it, well there are plenty of fish in the sea. What did the girlfriends have to say about all of this?

This idiot violated all 4 of the 4 Rules simultaneously. He should not be carrying a gun, period.

Since it's a small town, it might be better just to give one of his bosses a heads up, rather than file a formal complaint, if you think that will work. If you don't think that would make a lasting impression, then file charges. Since you don't live in the town where he works, I wouldn't sweat repurcussions from his work-buddies. I think they would take a dim view of what this jerk did anyway, being LEOs and all.

And definately tell his Dad. Do what ever you have to do, because it's just a matter of time before Moron kills someone, and we all read about him on the Brady Campaign Blog.
 
Do what you can, even if you think nobody will listen.

Stay clear and try to talk sense into your friend.

This fool seems certain to kill somebody and nobody's "girlfriend of a girlfriend" is worth the drama which will ensue.
 
PS- for the legal guys- is this an "assault with deadly weapon" ?
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In my jurisdiction it's aggravated assault, a felony. This guy needs to go down, hard. If your friend is willing to back you up and testify, you should report him to whichever department has primary jurisdiction where the offense occurred. If it's the PD where he works, then the County Sheriff may be a good place to start.
 
If I were BestFriend I would tell BestFriend's GF that Moron is no longer welcome in BestFriend's presence or home anymore. No negotiation, no if's, and's or but's about it. He almost killed me and I won't take ANY chance of that happening again. Moron's GF is welcome but if Moron has to come than that's too bad Moron's GF will have to stay away.

I would also file a police report and file for an RO. I would make damn sure that loose cannon stayed the heck away from me. He put a loaded gun to someone's head. That's not poor or even dangerous behavior, that's down right criminal and should be.
 
Wow, just wow. Definetly call the cops, this guy needs to realise that there are consquences to being a dumb@$$. Something like this I would think could be grounds for a restraining order as well.
 
I'm pretty sure that Moron was drinking a beer when this happened. We had all been there no more than 25 minutes though so unless he was drinking beforehand, that was most likely his only drink. The girlfriends were both drinking, but my friend and I were not, as we both had to wake up early the next day.

Oh and BestFriend's girlfriend was royally pissed (it was her apartment). She blamed the whole thing on BestFriend, even though he was only an unwilling participant, and sent him home. The girlfriends just seem to think that Moron is some big goofy guy who just needs to grow up (which is undoubtably true). Any time he screws up, they'll blame it on us (well, mostly my friend, because I make it known that I don't like moron) for not being the better man and letting it go.
 
Guns are not toys and what you went through was not a game, as much as Moron might believe it was. He's reckless, irresponsible and incompetent - and needs to lose his firearm.
 
sounds to me like this guy is eventually going to shoot or kill someone unintentionally at some point if he is not stopped.
If you make an effort to stop him (police report, tell his dad, w/e) one of two things will happen:
a) he will grow up and stop being a moron
b) he will eventually get into trouble with his firearm and shoot and/or kill someone.
If you do your part, either way he goes your conscience is clear and YOU did the right thing.
If he kills someone in the future (especially someone you know) and you did nothing to stop this retard it will be a horrible burden on your mind, and that's something none of us here would wish on you.
GP
 
I would investigate and try to find out who his father is and then try to speak with him in private (not at his home, but at a diner or something). I'd suggest not phrasing your conversation as "Your son is a moron!" but rather tell him you are concerned that his son is headed towards an accident.

Still he may not listen, but it is a better chance if you put in a way that you are concerned...
 
[Oh and BestFriend's girlfriend was royally pissed (it was her apartment). She blamed the whole thing on BestFriend, even though he was only an unwilling participant, and sent him home.
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Well problem solved! Best friend needs to find a new girlfriend now, and all these Morans and Moranettes will be out of his life forever.

File a police report TODAY! As an ADULT, you have a responsibilty to society to do so. Next call....to Morans Dad.
 
My advice:

1. Moron is a moron. Stay the heck awway from Moron!

2. Since BestFriend's girlfriend blames him, its obvious that she cares more about her female companion's feelings, and about keeping the click together, than she does about BestFriend. Help BestFriend find another girl!

3. If this is what Moron does with his friends, what will he do when a stranger looks at him the wrong way? File a police report!

4. Don't worry abour reprecussions. Most likely, the cops he works with will marvel at his incredible stupidity. Just because he sees them outside of work, does not mean they're really tight. They may already suspect he's a little crazy, but workplace ettiquete dictates that they not shun him when the shift ends.

5. If BestFriend causes you to continue to see Moron, then maybe its time to ditch BestFriend. Unless, of course, you like having a gun pointed at you because BestFriend's girlfriend says its OK and BestFriend can't possibly speak up to her.

6. The members of THR are in no way "gun shy." If having a firearm pointed at you in anger is OK, then we wouldn't act shocked. We are shocked. This is serious business. Anyone who downplays an armed assault on your person is not your friend. Think about changing the circles you hang out in.

7. They say that apples don't fall far from the tree... this may be true of Moron and Moron'sDad. If you are going to take it up with his father, you better be really sure he isn't just like Moron. Resolve the situation through official channels.
 
i would actually contact the FDLE and ask them... tell them that you were the victim of an assault committed by a non-officer employee of a small PD and that you fear that any official statements to local authorities would result in retribution...

the FDLE will get internal affairs involved and things will handled pretty quickly... if it gets too out of hand, contact your local news stations and get them to help... they would love to run a story about a city employee that got violent and then was protected by his own department
 
second vote for bestfriend to ditch girlfriend. if she's willing to let moron around with loaded guns, she is obviously not the brightest crayon in the box.
also, i think leaveing immediatly was a good idea. temper and dealing with that crappy situation do not mix. get in contact with those in charge of moron at work. his behavior is not acceptable.
moron is either gonna get killed or gonna kill someone.
 
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