An extremely reckeless situational awareness exercise

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Bad situation all around, and I would by all means stay the hell away from the guy and his girlfriend. If that means staying away from said girlfriend's friend, and consequently that friend's boyfriend (your best friend), so be it.
 
If you are concerned with going to the department he works for then go the the County Sheriff of the State Police. You must definately get this reported before this person kills someone. Remember when, not if but when, something does happen you will feel responsible because you did not do all you could to stop this type of irresponsible behavior.
 
He does hand to hand exercises with a loaded gun? That would seem to qualify as depraved indifference, and he is too stupid to work for a police agency in any capacity.
 
I'd report him. Esp. if he has a permit now. Folks like this give the rest of us a bad rap. There's no excuse for acting the way he did, and it's going to end in tragedy.
 
Ya know, on second thought, I was too soft on the guy. Just go ahead and file the report first. Best to have it all down on paper.
 
Oh and BestFriend's girlfriend was royally pissed (it was her apartment). She blamed the whole thing on BestFriend, even though he was only an unwilling participant, and sent him home. The girlfriends just seem to think that Moron is some big goofy guy who just needs to grow up (which is undoubtably true). Any time he screws up, they'll blame it on us (well, mostly my friend, because I make it known that I don't like moron) for not being the better man and letting it go.
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Open letter to BestFriend,

Young man, I was 20 once too. I know that you’re girlfriend means a lot to you right now. But if a person drew a gun on you, for whatever reason, and your Sweet Lass is not fully in your corner in a fighting mad rage ready to do harm to anyone who shoved a weapon in her Beloved’s face; please thank her for her company, wish her the best, and move on.

This is one of those tests in life that you should be thankful for. She failed it and you are much the better for seeing the grade she made. It could have been 10 years from now when you have 2 kids and she simply didn’t want to hang around when times got lean.

That little voice you hear deep down in your soul? The one that is nagging you through all the hormones, feelings of intimacy, and thoughts of romance? Yes, that one. The one that all the other voices are telling to shut up and be quite. The one that is saying, “HEY! There is something not right here.” Listen to that one. It’s the one that tells brave men when to leap onto grenades and when to do their best impressions of a particularly quite species of tree. It’s telling you something you need to hear.

You know now, beyond any showdown of a doubt, she will not stand by you when the chips are down. Cut your losses and run. You may be lonely for a while, but you will be thankful later.

Good luck to you sir and God bless.

Sincerely,
ArthurCW

I really hate to give advice like this. Your friend can do what he wants. I don’t know the full situation he’s in. But if there are no other entanglements, He should see this as a MAJOR sign that she’s not Miss Right.

Ladies? Your thoughts?
 
Jiggle, I'd recomend you call the police anyways even if it is days after the incident. He may not get charged (I don't know) but your best friend and possibly the girlfriends (if they were there) would be witnesses and the whole thing would get recorded and processed and would go on moron's record. He might be charged anyways. Just because the cops didn't catch him in the act and just because there isn't fresh bruises to inspect doesn't mean he won't get in trouble. Besides that, maybe if he gets in REALLY big trouble like that, maybe he'll get the hint and smarten up a little. Call the police.
 
I have just spoken to my friend and told him that I will be filing a police report. He said he understands, and that while he's not exactly in favor of it, he knows it's the right thing to do. I'll call the sheriff's non-emergency line to find out exactly what I need to do.

And he is fully aware that he needs to ditch his girlfriend. At this point, he is kinda just using her to pass time. I strongly doubt that they will still be together a month from now.
 
At this point, he is kinda just using her to pass time.
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Sounds like a nice friend:rolleyes:

File a report. Do it. Do it now! Your 'friends' might not be willing to talk, but if this does go to court they will get subpoenas and probably won't be willing to lie :p

I don't think you understand how dangerous this guy is. As said earlier, we aren't gun shy around here. When we get shocked over something firearms related it's a pretty big deal ;)
 
Sounds like a nice friend
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Eh, it's a complicated situation and I don't feel like getting into it.

File a report. Do it. Do it now! Your 'friends' might not be willing to talk, but if this does go to court they will get subpoenas and probably won't be willing to lie :p

I don't think you understand how dangerous this guy is. As said earlier, we aren't gun shy around here. When we get shocked over something firearms related it's a pretty big deal
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The whole reason I started this thread was because I do understand how dangerous he is. And I just got back from the police station. They filed a report, but said it would only be filed as a "suspicious incident" because the "victim" wasn't there to confirm my story. They said that Moron (okay, they didn't actually call him Moron, but you know they were thinking it) would probably not even be notified of this unless something comes up in the future to which this is relevant.

I spoke to my friend about helping me with the report, but he said he doesn't want to put Moron through all the legal and financial troubles that would certainly ensue. I can understand that, because after you've known somebody for as long as they've known each other it would be hard to do that to them. He said that he'd rather try to get him to go to some kind of counseling. Not a firearms safety course, as he has been to a few and knows the rules, he just doesn't follow them. He wants to get him to go to somebody who can calm him down and perhaps convince him that he is not immortal, and he will go to jail for a long time if he keeps up this behavior.
 
They filed a report, but said it would only be filed as a "suspicious incident" because the "victim" wasn't there to confirm my story. They said that Moron (okay, they didn't actually call him Moron, but you know they were thinking it) would probably not even be notified of this unless something comes up in the future to which this is relevant.
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I think exactly what I predicted is what will happen here. They're aware. And they're GOING to talk about this amongst themselves. GuaranTEED.

Good job. I think you did the right thing.
 
It was filed as a "suspicious incident" as the "vicitm" wasn't there? Didn't you have the gun pointed at you as well?
 
Good job on giving his Department a heads-up.

You've been offered a lot of wisdom in response to what you've posted. It's important, but it was written well the first time and I won't repeat it.

There's just this: Do not ever remain in a room with Moron again. Don't go where he is, and if he arrives where you are, then leave. This will be awkward, it will probably get you funny looks and it will make you feel like a dork. That's OK; the "sticks-and-stones" metaphor fits.

Don't be there when whatever is going to happen with him and a gun eventually happens.
 
Don't assume that the officers he works with and hams around with would blow this off as nothing. If they know you're serious and telling it like it happened they may come down on him pretty hard personally. And they should. Besides that, the right thing to do is let the authorities know what he did. He's the guy who gives the rest of us with CWP a bad name.

I'm glad you and your buddy didn't get hurt.
 
It was filed as a "suspicious incident" as the "vicitm" wasn't there? Didn't you have the gun pointed at you as well?
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You're right, it was. I forgot to mention that to the officer. The difference was that when the gun was pointed at me, it was because he was holding it behind his back so my friend couldn't grab it. He wasn't intentionally pointing it at me. Obviously that doesn't matter much when the trigger is pulled and I am dead, but it just slipped my mind when I was talking to them.

There's just this: Do not ever remain in a room with Moron again. Don't go where he is, and if he arrives where you are, then leave.
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I have already made that decision and I will stick by it. Occasionally I'll be at a party and he'll show up. In the future if that happens I'll leave, or if I've been drinking and my DD doesn't want to leave I'll call a cab.
 
good advice from all, and good on ya for filing the report.
just a thought....it seems that with moron working for the police, he will become aware that there has been a report filed regarding him. sooner than later i would think.
be prepared, should you happen to be in the same place as moron again, that he may (ie: probably will) confront you about the complaint you filed.
does moron know where you live? work?...he's already established that he is DANGEROUS.. please watch your 6
 
I also need to point out that the PD I went to wasn't the one that he works for. I was told by the local SO that I have to go to the PD whose district this occured in.

I got the feeling that the officer was not in favor of civilian CCW. I told her that Moron was ALWAYS packing. We could be out in the woods shooting with the whole truck loaded with guns and he would still have two more hidden on him. She responded with "This is South Florida. Everybody's packing."

I told her that I'm not really interested in getting Moron in trouble, I'm just afraid that if somebody doesn't do something he is going to end up killing someone. I told her that he makes all gun owners look bad. She said "So I guess you own guns?" I answered "Yeah, a few." She said "Do you carry concealed?" "No, ma'am. I'm only 20." She just said "Good." Even if she doesn't like the fact that I own guns, I still think she was impressed that I knew the laws and obeyed them.
 
I have never really been fond of Moron, as he is the type who will do anything for attention. He has been carrying concealed weapons (illegally) since he was 18.
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If one more old dog can give advice. Based on hard won experience, if it does not feel right; it is not right. Add any other catalyst such as booze or opposite sex and it will really go wrong. Get out before it gets bad especially when weapons or hand to hand combat personnel are involved.
 
be prepared, should you happen to be in the same place as moron again, that he may (ie: probably will) confront you about the complaint you filed.
does moron know where you live? work?...he's already established that he is DANGEROUS.. please watch your 6
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I know how contradictory this will sound, but I really feel that he is harmless. He is not the type who will confront anybody about anything. The most he would do is question my sexual orientation and leave it at that. The reason he's dangerous is because he likes to show off. I firmly believe that there is a high likelyhood of him having an accident and killing an innocent, but if he were ever in a true SD situation he would freeze.

One thing I didn't mention is that Moron is probably 6' and 250 pounds. BestFriend is 5'10" and 160 pounds. I have seen them wrestle many times and every time Moron loses horribly. He is nothing more than a big baby who needs guns to make him feel like a man. I am certainly not worried about him coming after me. However, I will still not confront him, as I think there's a good chance that he would draw his weapon and call self defense.
 
"I know how contradictory this will sound, but I really feel that he is harmless"

Jiggle, harmless people don't hold guns to other people's heads. Even if you don't think he would intentionally shoot someone, there's a real good chance it could happen by accident.

You did the right thing. You're looking out for everyone else. Good on ya.
 
while i agree that that was a very dangerous and stupid situation, i think it's quite halarious. i know who to call for a wild night on the town. :D
 
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