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Anyone reload the test cartridge case in a new gun?

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by chbrow10, Feb 26, 2008.

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  1. chbrow10

    chbrow10 Member

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    I just bought a new gun and it came with 4 fired cartridges from the factory. As I understand it, the prescence of these cases serves to proove that the gun will actually fire. Okay, I believe them. Is there any reason not to reload and shoot these cases?
     
  2. yhtomit

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    I guess one reason might be resale / collector value, if that matters to you.

    I've kept mine, though I do not intend ever to sell any gun I've bought, as a minor curiosity.

    What kind of gun comes with four of them? :) I wonder if it's a per-state thing, though it seems like it would be easier for them to include the same number in each, so I suppose it would be by manufacturer. I know my Springfield XD and Ruger P345 came with cases; I *think* my Cz-75 did, but now truly can't recall.

    timothy
     
  3. Steve C

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    These "test fire" cases are for jurisdictions that require them to be held by the police as a condition of ownership. The theory is that if the gun where to be used in a crime the police could match extraction and ejection marks from any spent brass with the samples they have of registered firearms thus catching those criminals who buy and register their guns rather than just stealing them.

    We all know that as a crime fighting technique its BS but it was common practice in totalitarian communist countries and our Liberals thought that it was a good idea for their US socialist totalitarian goals too.
     
  4. ReloaderFred

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    Some states require that a shell casing that was fired in the firearm at the factory be turned into the state, so they will have a fired case to compare with if that firearm is used in a crime. I won't get into the pros and cons of these laws, but they are law in those states. The factories include those fired cases with the guns to comply with those laws. If your state doesn't require that they be surrendered, then they are yours to do with as you please.

    Hope this helps.

    Fred
     
  5. Mojo-jo-jo

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    The fired cases are required for ballistic database registration in several states.

    State laws vary, but in some states if fired cases are not supplied by the factory, then the dealer from where you purchase the gun must ship the gun to the state police for case sampling before the gun can be delivered to the consumer. It is my understanding that this takes quite some time, so it is generally preferable to have the factory-supplied sample cartridges.

    If your state doesn't require this, then you can do what you will with the cases. Reloading them sounds like a fine way to get the most out of them.
     
  6. Idano

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    The spent round or rounds are to provide proof that the firearm was test fired and of proper head space. Fine arms have been shipping with test rounds long before there was even gun registration. However, it wouldn't surprise me in the least that previous mentioned concepts aren't part of another Republican driven initiative (Brady Bill) passed by a Democratic party (Clinton) in some states now.
     
  7. CryingWolf

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    Now that is funnier then hell:evil:

    I have only bought one new pistol and it was a .22LR. I don't think I would be reloading that anytime soon.:p But, if and when I do get a new pistol if it includes the 45 brass in it I will sure and heck reload it. I am going to mark the cases and see how long they will last. :D

    I wonder if they include this in a new revolver? :uhoh: :confused: :eek: :what: :scrutiny:

    I understand these are for states that think this will make it easier to catch the bad guy, which makes no sense at all. :cuss: :banghead: :fire:

    Please excuse all the smilies, just to show the moods I went through the more I was thinking about this.
     
  8. caz223

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    Sure enough, I got a spent case with my .41 mag acusport bisley from ruger.
    Sealed in an envelope. I haven't opened the envelope just in case of some screwy law being passed, but it's there. Not gonna open it.
     
  9. 243_shooter

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    Here in NY you don't get the little envelope, off to the State Police to be scanned and entered into the COBIS database.

    It applies to all new revolvers as well as semi's. The whole scheme has proven to be a complete flop and waste of $$ for everyone involved.

    If I had the option I'd just reload 'em, the same as the rest.

    Leo
     
  10. chbrow10

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    yhtomit,

    The gun is a Rock Island Armory Tactical 1911 in .45ACP. In the gun case were two envelopes (with two cases in each envelope), one for the gun with the same serial number in the box and one for some other gun. So I hope that the other gun doesn't go to some poor schuck in one of those states where they take those cases, otherwise thay guy will be waiting for the state troopers to process his gun!!!
     
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