Are 'Accidental Discharges' really Accidental Discharges..study says maybe not!

[Island Beretta]

Read this (you may have to cut and paste in your browser)..

http://www.forcesciencenews.com/home/detail.html?serial=3


I guess that's why guns of the safe action type has so much 'ADs'....in fact when I use my Glock as a bedside gun, I always clear the chamber and take out the magazine, whilst with the Beretta I just flip the safety on.. not a knock of anything just what I do to give me peace of mind..

 

[Mute]

Most "accidental" discharges are really NEGLIGENT discharges. They're only accidental in that the shot was never intended.

 

[stevelyn]

Mechanical safeties are overrated. It has everything to do with booger hooks and bang switches and not mixing the two when you don't wanna shoot.

My apologies to the member who coined the booger hook quote.

 

[mete]

The solution of course is to remove triggers from all guns !

 

[Cosmoline]

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[JohnKSa]

Did a poll on ND/AD here and got over 100 responses. Most of the discharges were caused by pulling the trigger intentionally. Snags, dropped guns and parts breakage combined resulted in a small percentage of the discharges.

 

[Steve in PA]

Wonder why the title of the article went from "unintentional discharges" to "accidental discharges"

 

[Joejojoba111]

"1. In studies of his own involving subjects drawing a handgun and extending it out to a shooting position, Lewinski has found that roughly 1 in 5 individuals unintentionally fires the weapon as it is brought up to eye level and pushed forward. "There appears to be something about the way the gun is moved and manipulated that puts contractile pressure on the wrist and trigger finger," prompting an involuntary shooting by some subjects, Lewinski explains."

These individuals MUST be rank noobs, there's no other explanation. One class we had to handle a variety of different firearms, unload, load, unload, then the next type, and this took a while. If at any time ever the finger entered the trigger guard it was automatic failure. There would be no argument, you could deny it if you liked, but if they saw it you failed instantly.

If you have trouble controlling it, and you know it, then for pete's sake just wrap your index finger with the rest of them!

 

[beerslurpy]

So they were going to sue glock when all along it was the booger hook that was defective?

 

[torpid]

Researcher Christopher Heim concludes: "It seems as if the finger does not in all cases obey the brain."

Wow, this excuse can be pretty handy in non firearm related matters as well- Thanks Mr. Heim!

 

[Dionysusigma]

Torpid, you didn't know that?!?

Personally, I've forgotten how many times I've thought to myself how I need to pay the electricity bill and buy groceries, only to find that my left hand is holding down a yellow sheet of paper that my right hand is signing...

Ten minutes later, I have a Mosin-Nagant, a pile of cleaning materials for said Mosin, and an hour after that I'm eating cold canned soup in the dark. :banghead: But hey, I have a new Mosin.

 

[1911 guy]

Truly accidental?

I would think that the defining condition should be whether the trigger was pressed or not. If you put xxx rounds through your automatic rifle, stop firing and the next round cooks off, that's accidental. If you pull the trigger, even if you "didn't mean to" that's negligence. I think most of us agree on that, already.

 

[robert garner]

I've had two NEGLIGENT discharges, neither was an accident!
I was at fault,Mea Culpa;Mea Maxima Culpa! I was Older then, I am much younger now! Booger hooks indeed ,booger hooks are not your friend.Control your booger hooks keep'em away from your Bang Switch,best advice I've ever got!TY!