Are HK pistols worth the money?

[boricua9mm]

One size fits one.....if you're "one" I guess they make the most sense.

Methinks you've been asleep at the wheel for the past 10 years:

P2000: Slender grip with 4 interchangeable backstraps
HK45: Slim grip with 3 interchangeable backstraps
HK45c: Slender grip with 3 (?) interchangeable backstraps
P30: Multiple Interchangeable backstraps AND Interchangeable side panels

 

[xwingband]

One size fits one.....if you're "one" I guess they make the most sense.

That goes for a lot of other guns way more than HK. As boricua9mm said all the newest guns give some customizing to fit you.

Not to mention that HK has been doing ambi functions on stuff like their slide and mag releases for the longest time. The whole world isn't righties... or like me that likes to drop the mag with their index finger.

I only have two handguns now, but I made both HK's. They had what I wanted so the price wasn't too much of an issue. I'd have gone for something else if they were closer and was very temped by M&P's and the XDM.

 

[RobMoore]

I feel like HK pistols are tailor made for my hands

That is what I meant by "one size fits one". I thought it was obvious enough. I guess not.

 

[Samgotit]

For people with small hands the P30 is a dream gun.

It's more than worth it to me. I shoot IPSC with it and have shot XD's, Glocks and M&P's. Ergonomically, there is no comparison.

The P30 is a completely ambidextrous gun with a perfectly placed, long slide stop lever that I can get to with my small thumbs and short trigger finger of either my strong or weak hand. I can manipulate the slide stop and the mag release with my strong hand with nearly NO adjustment from my firing grip. Getting to the mag release on other guns, like Glocks and XD's, means 'flipping' the gun inward so my tiny thumb can get to mag release. Of course, this means coming out of my grip. I've tried extended mag releases on Glocks and XD's. Neither was a good solution for me. I even tried one on both sides of a XD. Switching the mag release to the trigger finger side (strong hand) of a XD resulted in releasing mags with my palm while firing.

The interchangeable back straps and side panels allow me to wrap the P30 up like a pig in a blanket. I do, however, like the Glock's and XD's grip, but the rest don't work for me.

I do not rely on or practice with this in mind, but the P30 auto-forwards every time without having to slam a magazine in. Glocks and XD's do not.

I can get anything to work me, standing in a warm stall in a well lit indoor range shooting paper, but that's not what I need in a gun. That's not saying anything about other manufacturers. I, unfortunately, watch people do a hell of a lot better than I every month at IPSC matches shooting all kinds of different guns.

Sorry, but I couldn't care less what others think.

 

[Guns and more]

this is not a question of their quality, but rather do you think their production costs and quality warrant their price.

So then you don't think a Mercedes or Rolls Royce is worth the money either.
"Yep, same sheet metal as a Chevy, should cost the same."

 

[w_houle]

So then you don't think a Mercedes or Rolls Royce is worth the money either.
"Yep, same sheet metal as a Chevy, should cost the same."

Umm... they might already cost the same if you compare individual man hours spent in manufacturing them.
Then again, merely wearing a luxury name brand doesn't make it worth more.

 

[Boats]

Mercedes and Rolls Royce?

Status symbols that can be objectively outperformed by so-called "lesser" makes?

I guess I see things your way. And to think H&K doesn't even give you a "dealership experience." You have to imagine one. Rather like you have to imagine their "combat record."

 

[Guns and more]

I guess I see things your way. And to think H&K doesn't even give you a "dealership experience." You have to imagine one.

Good, we agree. Seriously, I went to the store to purchase a Sig 226 Blackwater. I hated it in my hand, to blocky, too long a reach to the trigger, front heavy. The salesman showed me the H&K P-30 and it was like it was made for my hand. It has never failed in any way, the slide release is located perfectly, the slide is easy to rack, it sounds like a fine machine just dry firing it. And why doesn't everyone make a mag release this simple?
So, yes, I'm a fan of H&K.
Plus, if it's good enough for Jack Bauer, It's good enough for me.
Later, I did get a Sig, the P-238, sweet......now I'm thinking I need to give the P-225 a chance.
But the H&K would be the last gun I'd sell if I had to.

 

[Boats]

Plus, if it's good enough for Jack Bauer, It's good enough for me.

It's always nice to see self-declared tool-hood.

 

[Greg72]

To be completely honest, all 3 of my H&Ks I bought used. Two PSP7s, and my first pistol, the much maligned VP-70. One PSP I haven't fired, it's my safe queen. I have complete faith in the other two as I've never had a failure with either. At a recent range visit, I fired a friend's USP .45. Now golldarnit, I'm contemplating getting one I'm so impressed with how it shot. So yes, I do feel they're worth the money.
Two parting shots though. A friend told me once when I was buying a rifle, " if you can afford it, it's a good deal, if ya can't, it's not." and someone's tagline here is" mindset, skillset, and toolset, in that order." Point being, I'd always try to get the BEST pistol I could afford, and then TRAIN with it. Whether the weapon is a Jennings, Hi-Point or an H&K, the price is kinda a moot point if I can't fight with 'em proficiently. That's my opinion, and y'all know what they say about opinions...

 

[ironduke]

I think they are worth their high prices. I once held a USP Compact .45 and ended up buying one because it fit so well in my hand. And when I finally made it to the range, it was almost immediately more accurate than my SIG P229 (which is a great gun itself).

 

[Autolycus]

That is up to the end user. For me the LEM guns I had were not. But some people love them. HK makes a fine firearm.

 

[benderx4]

If you have to ask the original OP question, than you're buying into the internet libel about HK. (Especially since HK does not cost more than a comparative Sig, and less than many 1911s. We won't even mention Seecamp, Rohrbaugh, etc)

And, btw, if you go onto HKPro, where you'll meet people that have actually used HK customer service, and have not just "heard" about it, you'll find countless threads of satisfied customers. But why confuse facts with internet hearsay?

 

[Guns and more]

It's always nice to see self-declared tool-hood.

Glad I made your day. "Tool-hood" That would be funny except it makes no sense.
I suspect you are one of those who answer every question with, "Get a Glock."

 

[RobMoore]

^ Go look at every thread with the word "Glock" in it going back to Dec29, '02. You will find your answer to that question.

 

[Boats]

Glad I made your day. "Tool-hood" That would be funny except it makes no sense.
I suspect you are one of those who answer every question with, "Get a Glock."

In every thread where a recommendation might be made I had thought to just say "Celebrity X uses Brand Y as a movie/television/video game prop, so you should use one in real life."

The next instant I recognized that as something a twelve year old tool would say.

 

[RobMoore]

.....

Lighten up, Francis

 

[Boats]

^ Go look at every thread with the word "Glock" in it going back to Dec29, '02. You will find your answer to that question.

Not true, I only post about Glocks in kool-aid threads. That's not quite every thread about the misshapen lumps on THR.

 

[goldie]

when the usp first appeared in the early 90's, it was made to be more affordable,but about 15 years later,they arent as affordable as they were then. i had a usp 40 for 10 years. very reliable gun,very well made.just wasnt crazy about polymer frame guns any more & that was my last one.between that & the current price of 40 ammo, i sold it a couple of months ago,& i have a walther p88 & a browning hi power which is just as good & cheaper to shoot in 9mm.....

 

[jimpro]

I guess if your gun can shoot bullets backwards they are worth it, LOL

Gee if he photographer doesn't know how to load a magazine, at least spring for the photoshop to correct the mistake... I'm a photographer by the way I know how to load a pistol.... I would never buy an HK either.... I don't see the appeal.

 

[hemiram]

I would happily pay $600+ for a nice used P7, but I will pass on paying the same amount for a new polymer HK. Same goes for used, for what a used HK goes for, I can buy two decent all steel guns.

 

[Guns and more]

Are HK pistols worth the money?

Is a Mercedes worth the money when a Chevy will get you there?

 

[RobMoore]

If Chevy made a car that was just a comfortable, just as luxurious, just as fast, just as everything else.........and you still paid Mercedes prices just to have the Hood ornament, would it be worth it?

 

[bartman06]

I said no, the simplest reason is that there are so many guns out there that are more accurate and more reliable for much less money. Also they seem to be behind the curve as far as what people are looking for to accessorize their guns, i mean they have only recently started to put decent light rails on their guns. I might want one but i won't buy it unless the price comes down to a more realistic number.

 

[msgunner]

I have a HK USP40. I got it used (in excellent condition) for $450. It is the most accurate and reliable pistol I've ever owned. Its built tough. Like leave it in a mud puddle for 3 days then pick it up and function flawlessly tough. I wouldn't recommend that but that's the kind of brutal conditions HK arms were designed to withstand.