faustulus
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If the AWB passes congress (by a narrow margin), lands on Bush's desk and he signs it into law. (for arguement's sake it doesn't matter if it is the same one a worse one or a 'better' one) will you vote for him?
AWB and the election
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I will not vote for him anyway.
DONT VOTE FOR BUSH OR KERRY. :banghead:
DONT VOTE FOR BUSH OR KERRY. :banghead:
Maimaktes
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Hell, no!
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RangerHAAF
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We(gun owners) have been waiting for 10 years for this blighted law to be ended. Why would we vote for anyone who says that he's gonna continue it. The best thing that GWB can do is to keep his mouth shut and just let Clinton's gun ban to fade away.
The Senate will be voting on S. 659 in a few weeks to galvanize the NRA and gun owners to their side. They've got to give us something; both at the NRA convention(passage of S.659) and leading up to the election(Clinton's gun ban demise) to cheer about.
The Senate will be voting on S. 659 in a few weeks to galvanize the NRA and gun owners to their side. They've got to give us something; both at the NRA convention(passage of S.659) and leading up to the election(Clinton's gun ban demise) to cheer about.
Allowing the ban to pass is one of the only things that will keep me voting for Bush. Im not REAL happy with him as it is. But, he is the best choice for now. BUT, if he does sign the ban he will be no better for this country than Kerry. And it would be worth it to send that message to the repub leadership.
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there is no way the AWB is going to be allowed out of committee this year.
MicroBalrog
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Somebody voted yes?
I wouldn't vote for Herr Shrub or that other fellow who I know tossed the apples at Dorothy in the "Wizard of Oz" movie.
I don't care what he does with the AWB - my expectation is it will expire and then magically resurface once Herr Shrub wins the election and gets four more years to wipe his behind with the Constitution.
I don't care what he does with the AWB - my expectation is it will expire and then magically resurface once Herr Shrub wins the election and gets four more years to wipe his behind with the Constitution.
Hkmp5sd
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Nope.
ClonaKilty
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I voted "no" only because there wasn't a "Hell No" option.
Bush is in trouble and he needs us gun owners to win the election. I've sent him a letter to that effect and will certainly vote Libertarian if he re-signs the AWB (yes, yes, assuming it gets out of committee).
Bush is in trouble and he needs us gun owners to win the election. I've sent him a letter to that effect and will certainly vote Libertarian if he re-signs the AWB (yes, yes, assuming it gets out of committee).
mrapathy2000
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it doesnt matter who you elect they all will sign it.
oldfart
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The AWB will not make it to his desk before November. But just as soon as he has won another four years at the trough, it'll appear as if by magic.
Does anybody remember the JFK quote about 'when the means of peaceful revolution are removed, only the violent means remain'? (Something like that, anyway.) How does it feel to be at war--- and losing?
Does anybody remember the JFK quote about 'when the means of peaceful revolution are removed, only the violent means remain'? (Something like that, anyway.) How does it feel to be at war--- and losing?
Moparmike
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I wont vote for either of the two evils. Vote libertarian, and you will sleep better at night. I know I will.
Michigander
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Ditto.
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RocketMan
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I am a dyed in the wool conservative. Bush isn't.
'Nuff said.
'Nuff said.
mrapathy2000
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I dont have a problem with sending bush a message but the message you guys need to learn is kerry is not going to be any better. nor will dean. edwards I dont know much about.
do I absolutely like what bush has done no. he has done good with war though could of done better with iraq cause for war. rather war on terror be overseas than here. the big spending is discusting, I hate big government myself. the imigration status stuff sounds like a total waste.
no clear better option. kerry would strip the military of theyre fancy weapons if given the chance and ability. no doubt he would do the same to civilians. he is complete friend of brady bunch and not the firearms lover.
thread is a bit of a waste other than sending bush a message:no awb renewal.
better to make a an effort together than to throw away a vote on some 3rd party pipe dream. you will make yourself irrelevant if you dont voice to GB you dont want the AWB to be renewed.
do I absolutely like what bush has done no. he has done good with war though could of done better with iraq cause for war. rather war on terror be overseas than here. the big spending is discusting, I hate big government myself. the imigration status stuff sounds like a total waste.
no clear better option. kerry would strip the military of theyre fancy weapons if given the chance and ability. no doubt he would do the same to civilians. he is complete friend of brady bunch and not the firearms lover.
thread is a bit of a waste other than sending bush a message:no awb renewal.
better to make a an effort together than to throw away a vote on some 3rd party pipe dream. you will make yourself irrelevant if you dont voice to GB you dont want the AWB to be renewed.
I can tolerate Bush claiming he supports the AWB while blantantly doing nothing to support it (and thus allowing it to expire). But if he actually signs it, or worse, starts pushing for it to pass, I'll then vote for Snoopy(Libertarians are too spineless on defense).
Don't get me wrong, I'm planning on voting for Bush. But I fully expect him to continue doing what he has been doing with regard to the AWB: nothing.
GHB
Don't get me wrong, I'm planning on voting for Bush. But I fully expect him to continue doing what he has been doing with regard to the AWB: nothing.
GHB
WonderNine
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Wise advice. I concur.
cracked butt
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Yes, I will still vote for him, he isn't much of an alternative to John effen Kerry, but he's still a much better choice if you don't want to see anti-gun propaganda spew out of the Executive Office on a daily basis. Its sort of like taking a punch to the shoulder to avoid taking a punch to the chin.
If this bill gets to his desk, its time to take a serious look at the Republican leadership in congress. Remeber, GW said he would sign an AWB if it makes it to his desk- to me it sounds like a line drawn in the sand meaning that if the republicans in congress allow such drap to reach his desk, he's taking them all down.
If this bill gets to his desk, its time to take a serious look at the Republican leadership in congress. Remeber, GW said he would sign an AWB if it makes it to his desk- to me it sounds like a line drawn in the sand meaning that if the republicans in congress allow such drap to reach his desk, he's taking them all down.
HankB
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I don't believe it will happen before the election . . . all Congress has to do is nothing for the AWB to expire . . . but after the election, I'm not so sure.
With a GOP house, a GOP senate and a GOP president, any renewal of the AWB will make it a GOP gun ban. I'll blame the party, as any scenario for renewal before the AWB expires will require the actions of a whole bunch of Republicans, not just one man.
And if the AWB is renewed before the election, I will not vote for ANY member of the GOP for ANY office, even if it's third assistant dog catcher in my home town.
Better a declared enemy (Democrats) than a backstabbing "friend."
(Bush's hard left turns during the past two years are making it harder and harder to justify voting for him anyway . . . an AWB renewal would be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back.)
With a GOP house, a GOP senate and a GOP president, any renewal of the AWB will make it a GOP gun ban. I'll blame the party, as any scenario for renewal before the AWB expires will require the actions of a whole bunch of Republicans, not just one man.
And if the AWB is renewed before the election, I will not vote for ANY member of the GOP for ANY office, even if it's third assistant dog catcher in my home town.
Better a declared enemy (Democrats) than a backstabbing "friend."
(Bush's hard left turns during the past two years are making it harder and harder to justify voting for him anyway . . . an AWB renewal would be the proverbial straw that breaks the camel's back.)
Leatherneck
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Good replies from all. My support for the President is weakened enough that I have become essentially a single-issue voter this time. While I couldn't bring myself to vote for the presumptive demo nominee, I will gladly write in John Galt as my choice. 
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