Echo Tango said:
I am rather surprised by most of you, this morning. Most of you have completely lost focus on the post.
Rockrivr made it perfectly clear that he fully expected to be roasted for posting the full particulars of his incident. Phrases like "flame retardant underwear" and "my past aggresive driving" pretty much bear that out.
This post isnt about speeding, this post isnt about wether he is or isnt making excuses. Lastly it certainly isn't a sounding board so you can sound off your attitudes about his speeding, or what you think about it
When he posted the details of his traffic stop, he MADE it about someone partcipating in a criminal activity (speeding IS a criminal activity, even though you might deem it secondary to the issue at hand) while carrying a firearm. Otherwise, why the full accounting, instead of the just as honest but less detailed "As I was my way home, I was stopped by an officer and nearly pulled a firearm out by mistake..."? If his detailed account had been about how he nearly pulled out a firearm on an officer while selling crack or while molesting children (Sorry here Rockrivr...in no way do I mean to imply that you would partcipate in these activities, merely drawing an analogy) would you have considered it not germaine to the discussion at hand?
as well as SASS throwing his/hers helpful suggestion that he should have drawn his ccw and make the world a safer place. Yet amazingly this seems to be the major focus for alot of you.
That one WAS over the top. As far as I am aware, there are no states in the Union that stipulate the death penalty for speeding.
This post is about training, and habits.
And about someone who was participating in an illegal activity while carrying a firearm.
RR1 almost made a life threatening mistake because he chose to deviate from his trained carry method. It behooves all of us as responsible weapon owners to recognize that. This is a opportunity for all of us to look at ourselves and say " What lessons have we learned here?"
The first link in the chain that set the whole near disaster in motion was the greatly detailed reason for his having to reach for anything in the first place, ergo, I think on topic and fair game for comment.
Train like you fight, as the old army adage goes. RR1's inciddent today once again re-enforces that statement.
That it does. And the first rule of fighting while one is burdened with the heavier than normal responsibility of being armed in a non-combat zone society is DON'T DO SOMETHING THAT WILL INVOLVE YOU IN AN UNNECESSARY CONFRONTATION. He very vividly described just how he violated that rule. And got exactly the reaction he stated that he knew he would. Yes, you are correct. He SHOULD have been very familiar with his preferred mode of carry. He should have practiced it until it was automatic, programmed into his very memory, and then STUCK with it. That does not mitigate the fact that had he not been involved in an illegal activity, the rest of it would have been moot.
His post states he normally kept his wallet in the location of his ccw, and when the request was made for his license he automatically reached for it at it's rememebered location. Luckily at the last minute his brain held up a little red flag and tragedy was avoided.
Under stress we react automatically to our surroundings, its a proven fact. I am not talking about just way you react with firearms either, Those of you in or formally in the armed forces remember all that repetative training you got on every tiny little thing, from lacing your boots to how to purge your chemical gear. There was a reason for that, they wanted you to be able to do it automatically without thinking because it was something that was going to someday save your life. However sticking to firearms,this is why those whom are really serious train so much. Muscle memory takes over and 9 times out of 10 the brain has very little say in it.
I have no bones to pick with you on these astute and correct assertions.
Some of you folks need to reflect a little on why you are here. I understand you may not like high speed, or aggressive drivers. I understand your Niece, Dog, Cousins sisters brother may have been killed or disabled by one. But this is not the place for that. They have specialized internet forums out there where you can rant and rave all you like on the subject, and can be as unprofessional in your comments as you wish to be, this isnt one of those forums. Keep that in mind. Personal isnt the same as important.
Even though I wasn't one who climbed his hiney over the whole thing, I don't think that any of us are here to ignore someone who self admittedly was violating reasonable laws while carrying a firearm. Firearms ownership and rights ARE personal to me, and I'm sure to others too. And important. When it involves public safety and common sense laws, personal is indeed important.
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