Mustang02
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PNC. They put them up a few years ago. That's the only sign you'll see.
Banks no gun signs
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Wells Fargo has a long history with guns, Stagecoaches, and the old west. The one I go to locally has a picture of a wells Fargo rifle and revolver
Pismopal
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Thats funny...I don't allow signs.
greenmtnguy
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So, if there are "no guns" signs on the bank doors - do the security guards from the armored cars doing the deliveries/pickups disarm before they go in? (This is of course, rhetorical).
I ignore the "no hats" sign on doors of my bank's branch offices. I've been doing business there for many years and if they want to keep my business, they shall not treat me like a criminal suspect or plane hijacker when I'm bringing in tens of thousands of dollars for them to hold onto for me while paying me a fraction of 1 percent interest.
I ignore the "no hats" sign on doors of my bank's branch offices. I've been doing business there for many years and if they want to keep my business, they shall not treat me like a criminal suspect or plane hijacker when I'm bringing in tens of thousands of dollars for them to hold onto for me while paying me a fraction of 1 percent interest.
Plan2Live
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They also have a recent history of being neck deep in the mortgage debackle and needed public assistance (bailout money) to stay afloat. So the gun crowd is willing to ignore all other transgressions and hold them in high esteem simply because they don't post no gun signs? Interesting. Disappointing but interesting.
Kind of local example:
In Ohio, when the guv signs a bill into law, it takes either 60 or 90 days to take effect, unless there is an "Emergency Clause" in the bill.
So when Ohio CCW passed, but before becoming effective, the Fifth Third Bank chain posted those annoying little red-slashed-circle-over-a-handgun signs.
So for the next 3 years, what was the most often robbed banking group in Ohio???
{hint: 5-3-B}
You guessed it, the Fifth Third Bank group. and they STILL have those sighns.
In Ohio, when the guv signs a bill into law, it takes either 60 or 90 days to take effect, unless there is an "Emergency Clause" in the bill.
So when Ohio CCW passed, but before becoming effective, the Fifth Third Bank chain posted those annoying little red-slashed-circle-over-a-handgun signs.
So for the next 3 years, what was the most often robbed banking group in Ohio???
{hint: 5-3-B}
You guessed it, the Fifth Third Bank group. and they STILL have those sighns.
Craven,
Generally banks are simply private property. Yes, you rob them, that's a federal crime, but simply carrying isn't an issue. I agree that local LEO can't carry into federal buildings in most instances, but those are owned, leased or otherwise controlled by the federal government. Private banks are privately owned.
In Missouri, just about the only time I see signs at banks is when dealing with local or regional brands. I've never seen one on a national chain. I'm not saying they don't exist, but I've never seen one.
In any event, although Missouri law allows private property owners to post their property, there is not penalty for ignoring it until and unless you are asked to leave, refuse to leave and law enforcement is summoned.
In any event, although Missouri law allows private property owners to post their property, there is not penalty for ignoring it until and unless you are asked to leave, refuse to leave and law enforcement is summoned.
Kc gun, you're from my neck of the woods. I'm in the kc area. Care to share which banks you see that do not have the signs. I will say the credit unions I've been to have the signs but they are not the legally required signs so they don't really carry the force of law, if there was any in mo with the signs anyway. Actually, the one bank that has the legally required signs in the bank I use (now). If the chain you're talking about is boa, well, they can kiss my .... You know.
If I can't find anywhere that doesn't have the signs around here and have to chose the lesser of two evils, guess ill have to go with a credit union.
John
If I can't find anywhere that doesn't have the signs around here and have to chose the lesser of two evils, guess ill have to go with a credit union.
John
ApacheCoTodd
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Interesting perspective but it's the deposits which are insured rather than the business or the physical property.
In the current age of exponential government expansion, I'm surprised the FED hasn't used this point of view to ensnare more physical control.
Overreact much? I like the way you use fancy words to embellish. High Esteem? This is a discussion about gun signs in banks. I am sure you can find somewhere to discussion TARP elsewhere on the internet. You do not have enough information to make assumptions about anyone holding them in high regard. I can tell you for certain they have pictures if guns in their lobby. That was part of the actual discussion. I take offense to you overreaction and trying to call me out and make me look bad without having enough information.
r1derbike
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I've not stepped in my bank in several years! I do everything online! I did go into a branch location a month ago, but didn't notice any signs on the door, but wasn't looking for one.
I'll have to bring my huge pickle jar full of change in for them to count and deposit, then I'll look!
I'll have to bring my huge pickle jar full of change in for them to count and deposit, then I'll look!
JTHunter
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mcdonl said:
You may not "frequent" a local gas station/convenience store but they are probably a greater risk. Banks frequently have an armed guard, cameras, etc. that are too expensive for the minimart.
You may not "frequent" a local gas station/convenience store but they are probably a greater risk. Banks frequently have an armed guard, cameras, etc. that are too expensive for the minimart.
JTHunter
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06 said:
It probably falsed so often it drove them crazy. Car keys, pocket knives, belt buckles, steel pins in bones from surgical repairs, etc., would make those things false, unless they reduce the sensitivity. If they did, that may be why they still got robbed as the detector was then set TOO low to work.
It probably falsed so often it drove them crazy. Car keys, pocket knives, belt buckles, steel pins in bones from surgical repairs, etc., would make those things false, unless they reduce the sensitivity. If they did, that may be why they still got robbed as the detector was then set TOO low to work.
The Lone Haranguer
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Banks are private property. Because the funds within are FDIC insured does not make them federal buildings. A Federal Reserve bank might be, but most of us will never need to go into one.
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It's funny that here in NYC, arguably, the most backwards place in the US as far as gun rights are concerned, I actually very rarely see these signs. Most places including banks just aren't posted. Only gov't building and the very occasional shop once in ablue moon.
I guess most shop owners figured that since guns are pretty much banned here anyway, noone who will bother heeding the sign has one so there's no point going out of your way double-banning them.
I guess most shop owners figured that since guns are pretty much banned here anyway, noone who will bother heeding the sign has one so there's no point going out of your way double-banning them.
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Seriously? What about Iowa?
I always wear a hat when I am leaving the house. I am also old enough to have been taught and expected to follow certain etiquitte, such as removing ones hat when entering buildings. I guess like other form of etiquitte, that is a thing of the past.
I do business @ a KY bank that's privately owned and has about 15 locations and my Mother in Law is a VP at one of the main locations..... They have the signs posted but that never stopped me from cc'ing..... I mentioned to her one day that the signs were misleading and false and she said "no guns allowed" because it was posted on the door.... I saved her the time of looking up the K.R.S code it refered to and told her that the code referred to tresspassing and actually had nothing to do with deadly weapons.... As an employee she was taught that there were "no guns allowed" and never questioned it so her higher ups were even pulling the wool over their employees eyes. I explained that the 2nd Amm. gave us this right and that there was no code for carrying at a bank so that was the reason it referred to trespassing. She now realizes that the higher ups and the lawyers are misleading the employees and the public into thinking that guns are not allowed..... Some people just can't get the "Because I said so" mentallity out of their heads....
Do your research and find out how much wool you have covering your eyes.....
Do your research and find out how much wool you have covering your eyes.....
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I hope to heck our bank never puts up metal detectors! Whether I was ccw or not I would set it off as I always have leatherman and knife on me! I used to set one off in college all the time as I had a Leatherman on me always. It was funny. Especially since I worked in the computer lab so I was in there all the time!
I would have a sit down chat with my bank if they put signs up about guns. They have the hat glasses hood sign which is fine and I respect it as best as possible. No need to stress out the tellers. They know me anyways.
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I would have a sit down chat with my bank if they put signs up about guns. They have the hat glasses hood sign which is fine and I respect it as best as possible. No need to stress out the tellers. They know me anyways.
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