Berettas in movies; idle curiousity question

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The beretta 92 (and the copy cats like taurus) just have that "allure" to them.

Of all the pistols I own (last count was over 20) with many being high end 1911's and colt revolvers in mint condition, my wife laid claim to my Beretta 92FS even though it is just a plain jane model with (at the time) factory grips. I added the cocobolo grips later and she loved it even more. I don't know, i always take one of my 92's or 96's to the range each time I shoot and have to shoot one.
 
Reliable function with blanks is a major concern to film makers. I read an interview with one of the propmasters for Miami Vice and he told stories of all the reshoots that were required with some of the early guns Don Johnson used. If you look closely many films will show a gun that fires one blank and then jams or locks open and the director will cut away very quickly. Miamai Vice had a lot of scenes like that.
 
Anyone see the new x-files movie? on the cover mulder is carrying a gun but in the movie he never carries a gun. Guns make movies sell.
 
Ok, let's see who used them in movies
Army rangers (Black Hawk Down)
Main characters (Boondock Saints)
Jason Bourne (the Bourne movies)
John Mclane (Die Hard movies)
The main charactes in Hard Boiled and other movies in the you-must-duale-wield-Berretta 92s-while-running genre of moves
Martin Rigs (Lethal Weapon)
Vitaly Orlov (Lord of War)
Neo (The Matrix movies)
T-1000 and T-X (Terminator movies)
Vincent (Ronin)
Alice (Resident Evil)
And many, many others.
Trinity (Matrix movies) uses the compact versoin of the 92
 
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I have one and love it. I bought it right after the US chose it as issue arm. Looks were at least one of the criteria I used in selecting it.
 
Beretta 92; Sexy.:rolleyes: Denise Richards: Sexy.;)

Sure Hollywood blockbuster; Denise Richards naked holding a '92.:evil:

Tell me you wouldn't go see it.:D
 
SHARPSDRESSEDMAN - " I've talked to prop masters for movies (Stembridge Rentals, way back when), ..."

S.D.M., did you know Larry M. at Stembridge?? Used to know Larry and did some shooting with him when I lived in Los Angeles. A very nice man and had incredible knowledge of firearms in movies.

L.W.
 
A good exapale is the title of the Saprano's have a 92 incorperated in it, but I don't think I can remember ever seing one in the show. Glock's and 1911's but no 92's.
 
I like the Berretta 92/96 because it allows for a long barrel on a relatively short frame. It is a proven design and infinately reliable. My model 96 is a 40 S&W on an alloy frame. the biggest advantage is that it is double action or single action, has a decocker and a safety.
 
It's our standard military sidearm, it's a 9mm, and many police agencies use it. Therefore, it's recognizable as a "serious" gun. When I was a kid I even had fake plastic Beretta with the orange cap.

It has a hammer, so the hero or villain can ominously cock it.
It has a safety, so they can accurately add clicking and manipulation noise when they're drawn from the holster.
They're far more visually interesting than a Glock, which has street cred but neither of the two "film friendly" features mentioned above.
 
Take a step back and look at film and TV before the Beretta. You had a ton of snubnose revolvers in the hands of criminals and detectives, 1911s in the hands of a few extra tough detectives, 4" Model 10s on the belts of police. Sprinkle in a few different 380 and 32acp pocket pistols and that is about it.

This pretty accurately reflected the reality of handguns in the real world too. Oh, there were a ton of top break 32s and 38s floating around even in the 1950s and 60s which never seemed to show up on film, and I suspect that there were a lot more pocket 32s and 380s in the real world than was represented on TV/Movies, but it was close. Now, hollywood depictions were about 10 years behind the curve. In the 70s you saw the beginnings of police switching over to semiautomatics. By the early 80s it was going strong. Which guns? Smith and Wesson 39s and Beretta 92s...there weren't a ton of other options.

You only very very rarely saw a hi-power either in real life or Hollywood.

Along came 'Beverly Hills Cop' and while it was a very funny movie, it was really one of the most popular action movies of the day. It was one of the first times you saw a hi-power in the hands of the police...and it fit. Detective in Detriot needed a serious working gun, guys in hollywood still had the old standby 38 snubnoses. Of course, the hi-power really isn't very distinctive, and it was humor moreso than action that carried that movie.

Think to yourself, what other double stack 9 was around in the 1970s and early 1980s? (S&W 59 is all I can come up with) and of course, Beretta 92F.

The next big movies to hit the 'action world' were Lethal Weapon and Die Hard. Aside from the guns being used, these were seen as the first of the 'new generation of action movies' and just like when a comic book movie gets huge box office (spiderman) two things happen: Other studios copy the heck out of the idea and the existing studio starts going for sequals, that's exactly what happened with these two. Lethal Weapon and Die Hard set the standard for action movies, and many details were simply copied.

And what guns do we see in Lethal Weapon? Well, the old cop is using his trusty smith and wesson model 10 38 special...and the elite crazy dangerous cop has the elite crazy dangerous Beretta 92. That was probably a little bit of luck, but a little bit of reality as well. Many police departments had moved to the semiauto. Obviously it didn't fit for him to have the standard 38 special, nor really a 1911. Neither of those fit the character. A hi-power would have been fine or a S&W 9mm of some kind, but I hear the Beretta 92 was exceptionally easy to convert to blanks. It also helped set up the 'young guy vs old guy' dynamic that got played a lot in those movies.

I can imagine some hollywood exec talking to the company who was supplying the props saying 'The Murtaug character needs the 'regular' cop gun, and the Riggs character needs the 'new' cop gun, one of those black square angle-y ones'
The armorer says 'something like this?' holding up a Beretta 92'
The hollywood exec replies 'Yes that, exactly!'

Even moreso, in Die Hard, the Beretta 92F is right there huge on the movie poster. And that is standard movie poster fare....action hero with gun held by head. Die Hard wanted a modern cop and modern guns, so the Beretta 92F definately fit with them...as did the H&K P7 and the Steyr AUG. (In fact, Die Hard is probably the first introduction most people have to the H&K P7, and almost everyone who sees that gun says 'ohh like in Die Hard! The only reason the P7 sales didn't skyrocket is because most people who saw one and asked about it at the gunstore were set back by the price)

So in addition to securing the Military Contract which meant no matter what we'd be seeing the Beretta 92 in war movies, Beretta happened to (partly by chance, partly because there just weren't a lot of other options to go with) get itself included on two action movies that were both blockbusters and both had a HUGE impact on all subsequent action movies....and it had a price point that the average Joe could afford.

This solidified the Beretta 92F as a gun you'd see a lot at the range, but also in subsequent hollywood productions.
 
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I would argue that because the Beretta 92 is the military's sidearm, that's what gives it the stage-presence. People who know nothing about guns will often say, "What gun does the US military use? Beretta? Well, that must be the best, use that!"

In the OP's example, Taken, the film takes place in France, and the French military uses the PAMAS (a Beretta 92 manufactured on French soil and assigned a rather unimaginative name).

With Glocks, I'd have to say they're popular because so many cops use them. Rap songs have also tended to talk about Glocks and Berettas far more often than any other firearms, and Hollywood picks up on this. Desert Eagles are also frequently referenced in rap songs, which, in my opinion, serves as further proof that rappers have no idea what they are talking about and just fake it until they make it.

Desert Eagles are popular simply because of the intimidation factor - the gun is huge, almost comically so, and thus makes the action hero or villain wielding said gun that much more fantastic.
 
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