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Best 00 Agent Weapons

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We have zombie threads and alien threads. It's high time for a 00 thread.

You are a secret agent (Scottish accent not mandatory) working for an intelligence agency. You may have to deal with SPECTRE and various henchmen with steel teeth.

You cannot have your own gun made. You must use a gun that already exists. Q section can modify the trigger to be lighter and add a silencer. They can also modify a holster to accept a silenced weapon.

The agency requires that you sometimes wear a tuxedo, thus making belt carry very difficult. A belly band under the cummerbund might do.

What guns would be in your stash? You are limited to a maximum of six - you may store long guns, SMGs for your raids on SPECTRE strongholds in various volcanoes. No rocket launchers.

What guns and what holsters (be specific here - brand and type)? Will you carry spare mags on your person?
 
Holsters would have to be custom, no way around it.
Weapons...MP10SD, yeah, the short lived 10mm version. Got to fire one once...
CZ75 PO1. Naturally.
Steyr AUG.
CZ75 PCR. Why not.
DSA FAL Carbine.

That oughta do it, especially if "Q" is supplying the electronics, and the Lotus.
 
Nagant revolver, silenced. With the government footing the ammo bill, it ought to be one of the quietest silenced pistols around. Should be in an IWB or shoulder holster. Maybe an integral silencer replacing the barrel.

Mauser 712 Broomhandle with shoulder stock, low-power scope mounted on the side, accurized by Q section. Works as a carbine for sniping duty, and as a SMG in a pinch. Detachable silencer.

CZ 83 in 9x18 Makarov, in shoulder holster. This and the Nagant will be the typical carry.

Vz 61 Skorpion, since we're often dealing with Soviet Bloc types. Possibly for CC.

Five-SeveN with a full-auto sear, laser, light, and silencer. Not for CC.

Beretta 3032 - backup gun, probally goes in the jacket pocket.
 
Q branch did develop their own multicaliber pistol for use behind the iron curtain based on the HK Mod. 4, available in .25, .32, .380 and 9mm Mak. (From the Q Manual for Avalon Hill's James Bond game) All you have to do is swap the magazine and barrel and viola!

While that was pretty cool, I think the Soviet counterparts over at SMERSH have some really radical whacky silent pistols, underwater dart firing full auto assault rifles and watches with garrottes and knives with blades that launch in a way that would make Maj. Boothroyd verdant with envy. And unlike Commander Bond, a good comerade thakes care to bring his expensive toys home after a long day at the office battling his capitalist oppressors. :D

So don't tell me we CAN'T design our own. :neener:

The 'everyday' carry gun would be a small single stack 9mm, like a Colt Pocket Nine or Kahr... it's meant to be small and carry a reasonable bite and hide away in a chamois shoulder holster under a tux. Maybe six shots. You don't need a accessory rail as the optional laser is built into the guide rod or grip--spy tech is SMALL and sexy, but a good agent should know how to use iron sights.

The car gun should be small enough to hide under a coat, but pack enough punch to knock out an armored car or pursuing Lancia full of Italian bully boys with ease. While H&K has had a great run with Western SWAT units, the weapon scream's "hey I'm with the agency." So instead, a short barreled AK74varient with an underbarrel 35mm grenade launcher could be purchased from existing Russian stocks, heck they even have one that takes a silencer... just perfect for those late night raids on a super villan's skull shaped island. Besides Russia is now an ally in the war on terror, and all agents should be familiar with the weapon systems employed by our enemies. Besides, your puny 9mm will mean nothing to a street punk in Pershawar, but everybody knows an AK means business.

The AR-7 was good while it lasted, but we've upgraded the concept... the floating stock now contains an SU-16 5.56mm action and a baffle supressed compact barrel and a twenty round magazine of ammunition. A telescopic sight is available, but a IR laser is mounted standard.

As for the 'we are going on a raid in the zodiac raft/auto gyro/rocket pack' sidearm would be a .45 or 9mm caliber handgun of the agent's choice. The agency should keep a number of Glock, HK, Colt, Browning and Grach pistols on hand tricked out for offensive use. (I just like to say GRACH) Those nifty underwater rifles from Russia should also be available in large numbers.

Each agent should also be armed with a .22 cal 'pen gun' based on the metalstorm concept, the projectiles are stacked in a row and fired one after the other by an electric switch. Most agents find the idea as laughable as cigarette rockets and leave the damn thing on their desk blotters, but it could save an agent's life in a pinch.
 
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Why this is easy.
A Walther PPK in .32acp complete with suppressor.
It is all the firepower a real "agent" would ever need.:)
 
I'd go for a beretta jaguar in .22 lr with the four inch barrel. suppressed of course. although I'd probably get Q branch to remanufacture it without any metal components and perhapse ceramic ammunition.

For a rifle I'd go with a Calico .22 M-100, Modified to take a folding stock with a 14.5 inch barrel and a High end silencer. The same ceramic and kevlar laminate remanufacturing would have to be done on it as well.

It would have to have a selective fire option.

A spy is not a foot soldier. you just need to have something on you at all times.
 
Beretta Minx in 25acp. Tape for the grip safety and to of course not leave any fingerprints on it.You know just like the real James Bond.:neener:
 
Hmmmm, a 00 section operative?

As I recall, the 00 section did the 'dirty work', so to speak. Their primary function was not gathering or collating intelligence, it was - ahem - solving problems in regard to the security of the Crown outside the boundaries of the realm. In simplest terms, this boils down to assassination. Whether political figure or criminal or some combination thereof, the 00 operative is going to be on the offense, not defense.

Travel with standard weapons is getting harder and harder. Getting on a airplane with anything more dangerous than a harsh word is problematic. Nor is the TSA officer - or the equivilent in the UK - going to give you a "...nudge-nudge, wink of the eye..." and let you past. Therefore, any weapon taken along will have to be something other than a conventional weapon. Either that or be an Air Marshal. Even then, the foreign nation knows Air Marshals are coming and has a facility to secure weapons immediately upon arrival.

Carrying a conventional handgun in a foreign, sovereign nation is pretty much advertising one is up to something, and probably no good. As a nation, Japan (for instance) is pretty friendly to the U. S. The government of Japan would not be happy to find a U. S. agent carrying a firearm in Japan intent on assassinating anyone. There's no reason for a 00 agent to be carrying 'casually'; it's too likely to attract attention. Anonymity is a far more valuable protection than firepower.

I see one of two options. Neither is ‘off the shelf’.

Something in the metal storm genre; pre-loaded and disposable; between five and ten shots fired nearly simultaneously. Perhaps one of one's golf clubs could be altered in such as way so it isn't obvious if the whole bag is x-rayed at once. Once used, the device should be discarded. So a propellant should be used that doesn't smell like gunpowder when it's used. A bent golf shaft in a trashcan might not attract too much attention, but I'd prefer it not be internally rifled. Not to mention how hard it is to bend even a light gun barrel.

One other option calls for more complexity than I like. Start with a medium powered handgun - perhaps the mainland Chinese or North Korea Army sidearm. From the same source, obtain one magazine full of non-domestic ammunition.

Remove all serial numbers and markings, making sure the metal (or plastic or whatever) is altered enough to preclude 'raising' them. Fit a suitable silencer. Treat the weapon with some sort of finish that does not retain fingerprints. Have the weapon loaded at the 'office'; leave no fingerprints or biological evidence on weapon, magazine or ammunition.

Then - one of the agency's trusted minions who works for the airline cleaning crew secretes the weapon on the airplane (immediately prior to your flight) in a hidden, pre-arranged place. One retrieves the weapon during the flight and carries it off the plane upon arrival. (Presumably one has done one's homework and is dressed and outfitted in such a manner as to not attract attention from the destination country's Customs officers.)

Do the job. Use all the ammunition. Leave the pistol.

Do whatever business or take whatever photographs one needs in order to appear like a normal traveler and go home.
 
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Primary carry would ba a Colt Detective Special with most of the bluing worn off. Several rubber bands around the handle to aid grip as well as to hold together the split grip. No holster and a handfull of rounds in the tux jacket pocket.
 
Travel with standard weapons is getting harder and harder. Getting on a airplane with anything more dangerous than a harsh word is problematic.

I'll have to read up on my "007 history" to see how he got by that problem. As early as the mid to late 50's, I recall Bond reading a report on the new airport x-ray machines where (to paraphrase) "he concluded with some annoyance that he'd need to find someplace besides his armpit to keep his Beretta the next time he went abroad."

I think, at least in later models, he had his guns and an assorted "survival kit" secreted in an x-ray proof hidden compartment of his breifcase.

To the question at hand...tough call!

Well, I like my Glock 19, and I was reading that they HAVE come up with some decent silencers for the Glock, including a thin one that lets you use the factory sights. For packing it, say a Galco shoulder rig with dual magazine pouches. For as we saw in "Die Another Day," the world is so dangerous now that not only is the PPK out, but Bond actually NEEDS to carry a reload! :eek:

Smaller gun? Why not up the mousegun ante, with a Kel-Tec P3AT? PCS holster with extra mag pouch.

For the big bad car gun, again updating the classic Bond gear - a long-barreled revolver. But forget .45 Colt or even .44 Mag - howzabout a .480 Ruger? :D
 
Well it's obvious...if you're 007 you carry about a dozen guns, including a rocket launcher, various automatics, a sniper rifle, and the obligatory handguns...none of which were ever actually made!

Greg
 
Well I would certainly hope that by 2006 anyone "00" classified in Her Majesty's Service would travel by other means than commercial airliner.
 
Hmmm...actually maybe a Titanium Gold Desert Eagle.50AE for the "big dawg!" :D

Well, all sorts of options for main firepower, but the backup gun would be this:

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg147-e.htm

with a built in clip, not a hostler.

Dude....if S&W re-released the ASP, I'd buy one in a HEARTBEAT! I know I can go out and buy a PPK, P99, shrouded hammer S&W, Ruger Blackhawk, or a Beretta .25 right now, but still...

The ASP, as I understand, has serious REAL-WORLD cred as a "spy's gun!" :cool:

Well I can dream. In fact, I'm gonna go to bed now and re-read "Role of Honor," the John Gardner book that introduces the ASP.

It just hit me that maybe of all the Bond authors, maybe Gardner did the most homework on the guns?

EDIT: After reading the first part of Chapter 10, "Erewhon," I may have to take that back. Gets a lot of stuff right, buuuut:

"With a recoil no greater than that of a Walther .22, it has the look of a target automatic rather than the deadly customized hand gun it really is..."

The first part I can't discount right away, but I highly doubt it. But the ASP does NOT look like any kind of "target" gun to me!

-He calls "Lexan" plastic "Lexon"

-And I think more people would be paying out the wazoo for Glaser Safety Slugs in 9mm if they REALLY had the stopping power of a 44 Magnum! :scrutiny: (towards the end of Chapter 11, "Terror For Hire."

BTW, I don't really reccomend this book as a "buy" as the plot is unspeakably stupid. Bond becomes a qualified computer programmer to infiltrate and take down a guy that makes simulations to train criminals and terrorists. :barf:
 
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Heh heh, I remember "Role of Honor". I always thought his "Icebreaker" was BY FAR the best Bond novel after the originals (some of which really were not that great) and would make an awesome movie.

Anyway, I think a great spy gun would be something along the lines of that forearm mounted spring eject gun Dice Clay had in "Adventures of Ford Fairlane". Easily accessable, easly missed on a body search, concealable in a tux, and in .380 or 9mm, powerful enough to kill a bad guy and take HIS gun :)
 
If you're with an "agency" security regulations will not be an issue. Think diplomatic pouch. Weapons can be delivered anywhere. Now on the actual weapons, lemme think....
 
In this day and age, we have a distinct advantage over the original Bond, as we have dozens of concealable pistols to choose from, thanks to the CCW laws around the country, and the way the companies have responded to those laws.

Personally, I concealed a Glock 19 and two 19 round mags in a Galco jackass shoulder rig for years under a suitcoat without anyone ever asking any questions, even when I stood in court arguing a case (yes, the judge knew and gave me permission...it's good to be a prosecutor somethimes).

A set of Glocks would do well. A 26 for deep concealment/back-up. A 19 for other uses. A 17 or something bigger for open carry.

Long guns would be a cut-down Remington 870, an MP-5SD, and something to reach out and touch them at longer ranges...maybe a tricked out M1A or a Draganov, with suppressor.
 
The Mossad used to use a Beretta 70S in .22 LR. this was used to assasinate after Munich. Single Action, single stack. utterly reliable, according to sources in the "service". See the movie "Sword of Gideon"
 
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I hear that the new 00 guy is going to use a pistol with the red plastic muzzle.:rolleyes:
 
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