Best 308 AR-style rifles

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JAV8000 said:
I purchased an LMT 308MWS after I came back from my deployment in Afghanistan. It takes pmags, has a monolithic upper receiver, is direct impingement, and can be had with stainless or chrome lined 16, 18, or 20" barrels. Mine has run flawlessly for about 200 rounds and is capable of sub (even 1/2) MOA accuracy with the 16" chrome lined barrel and 168 gr FGMM ammo. $2700 out the door...
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I want... :D
 
If I could afford it, I'd buy the PWS MK216. Every other option has a caveat.
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Caveat, because the of the way the rail panels are mounted to the gas block on MK216 I don't see how you can free float it. Caveat, sticking a piston onto an AR induces carrier tilt, and causes reciprocating mass to interact with the barrel: Neither of these happen with DI ARs.

The Knights SR-25 in M110 guise was chosen by the US Army as their .308 AR DMR. The UK MOD chose the LMT MWS for the same purpose.
 
I spent a day on the range with the 19th Group, and they let me shoot their suppressed SR-25. Now it was nothing short of glorious, but they told me that they had problems with them, that they would start jamming if they shot them faster than about 6 RPM. They said the KAC protoypes were much better than the actual delivered rifles.
 
Now it was nothing short of glorious, but they told me that they had problems with them, that they would start jamming if they shot them faster than about 6 RPM. They said the KAC protoypes were much better than the actual delivered rifles.
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That statement right there is why I laugh like a stoned hyena whenever someone says "it's all mil spec so it has to be the best". People need to realize that "mil spec" is generally pretty piss poor. Built by the cheapest bidder that can produce the greatest volume while sacrificing quality a lot of times. Any soldier that has been in the field can tell you this.
 
I spent a day on the range with the 19th Group, and they let me shoot their suppressed SR-25. Now it was nothing short of glorious, but they told me that they had problems with them, that they would start jamming if they shot them faster than about 6 RPM. They said the KAC protoypes were much better than the actual delivered rifles.
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So just like the AR-15 based rifles from the M16 to the M4 you hold the manufacturer to the spec they submitted that won the contract. How many manufacturers were able to build prototypes that were even competitive with the SR-25 / M110?
That statement right there is why I laugh like a stoned hyena whenever someone says "it's all mil spec so it has to be the best". People need to realize that "mil spec" is generally pretty piss poor. Built by the cheapest bidder that can produce the greatest volume while sacrificing quality a lot of times. Any soldier that has been in the field can tell you this.
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ARs have been around for over 50 years. We know how to make them run. That's why I laugh like a hyena when (less the burst or full auto feature) an AR manufacturer can't even meet Mil Spec, much less exceed it.
 
ugaarguy, most of the top brand AR's tend to at least meet mil spec and most beat it to death. I was in the field to long and handled too many M16's and M4's not to know this truth.
 
Rockfish61 said:
I have owned a POF 308 for two years now. I also have the P-415 in .223. This rifle has performed exceptionally well and I have even competed in F-Class unlimited at 1000yds. My reloads are consistently 1/2 MOA at 300 (see target). I have added only the Bipod and the optic (Vortex PST 30mm 4-16 MIL RAD) to the base platform. In my book it was everything I had wanted in an AR 308 platform and then some. It is 100% reliable (no FTF, FTE yet :) Accurate, easy to maintain (piston and NP3).

The only other AR 308 platforms I have owned are the DPMS Panther in SASS configuration and a Bushmaster. The POF has them beat hands down IMHO.
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That target shows about a 5.5 inch 5 shot group, which at 300 yards would be about 1.75 moa, not .5 moa. Still very respectable!
 
The GAP-10 and LWRC REPR are at the top of my list. My DPMS LR-308 was not as accurate as I had hoped and the overall quality was no where close to that of the REPR. That said, I'm not sure the REPR is $3000 better, but it is a very nice rifle.
 
Matthew Courtney said:
That target shows about a 5.5 inch 5 shot group, which at 300 yards would be about 1.75 moa, not .5 moa. Still very respectable!
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Thanks, That off hole was a sighter, I made an adjustment and shot the four shot group. I was working a new load up so I always chrono every shot. Here is another one using Varget that was just a hair over 1 MOA. The IMR 4320 proved to be more consistent and tighter groups in this rifle.
 

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Buddy just got a Laure PredatAR 7.62 and its unbelievably awesome. I have a DPMS lr308. Cant go wrong with either one, although the difference in price is a couple k.

i think it all comes down to how you intend to use it and how many nickels you want to spend. they all shoot straight.
 
My next gun will be either a LaRue OBR or a LWRC REPR. They are both expensive, but you get what you pay for.
 
cant say about the best, but i have heard very good things about the dpms line, even from some fairly experienced ar platform guys.

are they the best? probably not.
are the the best bang for your buck? very likely.

i dont own one, but would be very inclined to look at the lr308 models if i were in the market.
 
I have a DPMS. It has worked great for me, it shoots tight enough groups to really have fun with and it has tended to work really well so far. Granted, I don't carry it through the woods or subject it to much of anything harsh. Its life consists of range shooting and being babied. For that purpose it's a fantastic value.
 
henschman said:
arthury, what is your intended use for the rifle?
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Currently, I own a pretty current Remington 700 SPS Varmint 308 which shoots sub-MOA because I upgraded it with a Bell & Carlson tactical stock. But, the internal ammo compartment in the rifle is unreliable in its feeding and loading new ammo into it is also temperamental. I have talked with Remi and they strongly discouraged me not to modify it for a detachable mag.

Consequently, I am looking for a 308 semi-auto that has these characteristics:
  1. highly reliable
  2. able to shoot 1 MOA or better
  3. US-made
  4. Manufacturer will be around for a while
 
Knight's Armamnet SR-25 series:
SR-25 EM RIFLE P/N: 25870
CALIBER .308 (7.62mm NATO)
TRIGGER 2 Stage Match (4.5 lbs)
VELOCITY
2,560 fps (175 gr. M118LR)
780 meters p/ second
MAGAZINE TYPE / CAP. Standard 10/20 Rounds
WEIGHT (w/o MAGAZINE) 10.4 lbs / 4.7 Kgs
OVERALL LENGTH 39.5" / 100 cm
BBL LENGTH 20" / 51 cm

I got to see one once at a Class 3 Dealer, that's the one I thinking about saving up for.:D
 
This conversion is already too rich for my blood, but if i had my choice of "best" .308 AR, it would either be a Larue OBR or PredatAR, these rifles are phenomenal. And the guys at Larue are top notch, and there is nothing more American than anything made in Texas.

That being said talking about accuracy in AR's with .308 loads, my DPMS lr308 24in barrel likes being fed Speer 168 grain BTHPs Match, under Varget. This rifle is so accurate it is my new beanfield rifle over my 300wsm.
 
This conversion is already too rich for my blood, but if i had my choice of "best" .308 AR, it would either be a Larue OBR or PredatAR, these rifles are phenomenal. And the guys at Larue are top notch, and there is nothing more American than anything made in Texas.
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I'll second that as well.
 
Just throwing it out there..check out mega arms 308. Got mine finally setup and I'm very pleased with it.
 
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