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Best ever for “junk” brands

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by WestKentucky, Aug 10, 2020.

  1. WestKentucky

    WestKentucky Member

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    A coworker asked me a bit ago about a Cobray 45/410 single shot pistol and I without a thought essentially told him to run away from it if he planned to actually shoot it. That made me think about some other catastrophes that have gone through the Cobray factories like the Street Sweeper, Terminator, and Ladies Home Companion. I’m drawing a solid blank on what Cobray has ever done well so I’m wondering, what’s the best thing that they have ever put out (and how did that keep the business afloat for so long). Other brands come to mind though as being very similarly positioned in the market with little to show for their attempts but they just keep hanging around.

    So, when you think junk gun, what brand do you think of, and what have they ever done right?

    For me it’s absolutely Cobray and their ducktown double disaster side by side 45/410 pistol that comes to mind and the only thing I can think of that might possibly have kept them afloat is that cheap junk gun that sold a bajillion units because it was so small and cheap. Maybe the m11.
     
  2. troy fairweather

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    There's a few I could list, but it will make people mad. I don't want your thread shut down because of it.
     
  3. WestKentucky

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    @troy fairweather I could list a few really bad ones from reputable makers. Top of the heap would be a certain 10mm rushes to market by a company with a jumping jackass as a logo who refuses to acknowledge that they fouled up by not supporting the chamber of a high pressure cartridge.
     
  4. drobs

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    I made a similar comment about that double barrel Cobray on another forum and received a disgruntled response from an owner who just loved it.

    I have about $1200 invested in 6 cap & ball black powder revolvers.
    While they are fun to shoot guns and somewhat addictive - $1200 is still real money.
     
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  5. DocRock

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    Hi-Point fits the bill. Pistols and carbines. Cheap, ugly, ergonomically challenged with quite heavy triggers. Yet, both pistols and carbines have a reputation for being quite functional and immune to a lot of damage. They are certainly value for money. But did I mention ugly?

    I have a 45acp carbine and I love it, but not for its looks, horrid plastic, or aesthetics. It works well and I paid $125 for it. What's not to love?
     
  6. KKJ13

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    My vote goes to Jennings. My wife’s ex boyfriend (back in high school) used one to commit suicide after his third dui. The examiner figured he had to clear at least two ftf’s before getting it to get the job done.
     
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  7. 1KPerDay

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    Kel-tec
     
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    You mean like Taurus?:rofl:
     
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  9. Megawatt maker

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    I won a Hi point pistol in 40S&W in a gun raffle. When I went to pick it up at the gun shop, I asked if I could exchange it for something else...nope.

    I got stuck with it. It sat in the safe for a few years till one day I was bored and got it out to try for the first time.

    No go. Would not feed from the mag. Would not fire when even a single round was dropped into the chamber. Total POS.
    I called Hi point..because it was suppose to have a good warranty...which it actually does. Sent it back to them, and got back a basically entire new gun with the same serial number. They even threw in an extra mag.

    Went to the back yard to try it out...it at least fed from the mag, chambered and fired, but it would FTE every 3 or 4th round.

    Didnt even bothering cleaning it...put it back in the case and buried it in the safe somewhere. Not even worth the costs of shipping it back again.

    Overall, wasnt worth the cost of the BGC and the shipping to get it repaired the first time.
    I may get it out and cut it up just to be rid of it now that I'm thinking about it. No idea how they have stayed in business all this time.

    I can see why they do have the warranty however....you need it!
     
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  10. Bfh_auto

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    Jennings, Lorcin, and RG.
    I can't put Hipoint on that list because they are just an entry level Glock ;)
     
  11. Creed Bennett

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    Anything made by high point and taurus. I had someone bring a high point pistol into the shop one day and asked if I could repair it. I picked it up with two fingers and looked at it. It was literally melted. I asked the guy how he managed to melt the thing and he said he left it on the dash of his truck in the sun one day. I told him the trash can was over in the corner and did he want to put it there or did he want me to do it? He got mad and left. Oh well!
     
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  12. George Dickel

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    I had forgotten RG. When I worked as an MP desk sergeant at Ft. Hood, TX we had an RG that had been taken as evidence in a robbery. It was so jammed up that I couldn't unload it. The hammer was jammed and couldn't be moved so the cylinder was locked up also. I had never seen one prior to that and it was a total piece of junk.
     
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  13. 12Bravo20

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    I would not call Hi Point junk (at least their carbines) or all of the Taurus and Kel-Tec guns junk either. Everyone that I own or have owned in the pst have all worked. The Taurus 24/7 only got sold because I could not stand the mile long trigger pull. It was accurate and always functioned for me. I have two Taurus revolvers that are good to go. All fo the Kel-Tec guns have been good to go for me. I have a P3AT, PF9, PMR30, CMR30, and CP33. The PMR, CMR, and CP33 are just down right fun to shoot and accurate to boot. And what is not to like about having a 30 or 33 round magazine in a light weight package. The Hi Point 40S&W carbine I own is the same, accurate and functions great.

    Hi Point Kel-Tec and Taurus firearms are not everyone's cup of tea, that is Okay. I also catch crap for my Rock Island Armory 1911's too. They all work as they should. I have no experience with Hi Point pistols so can't say much about them. Their carbines, while FUGLY, just flat out work.

    I would say the Bryson, Cobray, Jennings, Rg and some of the FIE guns were/are total junk
     
  14. buddyd157

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    i just saw a Paul Harrell video on a high point .45 ACP.

    he had a heck of a time doing a field strip of that gun. it needs a special tool that high point supplies you.
     
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  15. troy fairweather

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    Wait people field strip them.
     
  16. WestKentucky

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    I would think a water hose would be sufficient to wash that brick.
     
  17. Outlaw75

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    I know, I thought you just chucked them in the trash bin when you left the range.
     
  18. WestKentucky

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    I have never seen a Jennings that was not trash from day 1, but I know a lot of people who have them and rely on them. I guess that’s fine if you never need one and don’t even keep it loaded, so I guess it’s potentially just as good as some other scare-based defensive items.
     
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  19. mokin

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    True. If I judged a certain company from Germany based on one pistol it would reflect rather poorly.

    My vote would go for Jennings/Raven. That being said, I wish I still had the little .25 I traded many years ago.
     
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  20. WestKentucky

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    Keltec is really amping up their product lines. When they put out new products you can about halfway expect to see them be hot ticket items for a while, especially things like the KSG, RFB, and PLR were when they were released. The guns seem to work for the most part too. Their warranty at one point was second to none because you could speak to a human, and they would listen to you. I once told them what parts I had dropped and lost and they promptly mailed them to me and asked if I needed any other parts.
     
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  21. Bfh_auto

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    You are supposed to use it as a melee weapon. When your arm is too tired to swing. You shoot it. No range time needed.
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    That has not been my experience.
     
  24. Outlaw75

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    Ya know, from the proper angle they do look like the Hammer of Thor!

    Hi_Point_JHP_3.jpg
     
  25. pharmer

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    I had a Cobray M 11 (9mm knock off of Mac 10), guess I paid $150 for it brand new way back in the last century. When the '94 "Assault on Weapons Ban" happened, I brought it to the Orlando gunshow and sold it in 30 seconds for $400. Guy immediately plopped it down on his table for $499, was gone by next pass. Joe
     
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