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Best SHTF rifle in .308

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Alex45ACP, Apr 2, 2006.

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  1. Alex45ACP

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    What is the best SHTF rifle in .308?
     
  2. FunGunner

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    Me? NEF Handie Rifle with a SuperSniper on top. But, thats just me.
     
  3. miko

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    Remington 7600 Pump with 10-rd mags? Shoots (aimed) as fast as semi-auto and as accurately as a bolt-action (considering <$400 price).
    Will eat any ammo, since ejection/chambering is manual.
    Weight is 7.5 pounds which is easy to carry. Legal in most places where semi-autos are not.

    miko
     
  4. itgoesboom

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    I won't claim it as the best, but it is what I got, and what I got is what will get me through.

    My CETME. Accurate, reliable. That's all I really need.

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    I.G.B.
     
  5. mustanger98

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    Best .308 rifle for whom? There are a lot of good choices, but the final choice comes down to what works best for the individual. For me, that'd be a .308 M1 Garand, or a crankbolt such as an Israeli K98k or an Ishapore 2A as I'm used to all three of those platforms. Or if I could have a Savage M11GL in .308Win. as I'm already used to one of those in .243Win.

    That NEF would be hard to beat for reliability and durability IMO.

    No knockin' the CETME, but this is where it comes down to what an individual's used to. One guy may be used to a CETME and not a Garand or M14. The next guy may be just the opposite. In either case, both guys need accurate and reliable.
     
  6. Alex45ACP

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    Just in general. Reliable, accurate enough, semi auto.
     
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    FAL
     
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    For me, if you want a true SHTF 308 rifle the best choice is the HK-91
    or a good functioning clone of this rifle (or a well built CETME).
    If you are truely in a SHTF situation you need something that has unquestioned reliability and something that won't need a ton of maintainence or parts replacement. In the 308 arena the HK-91 is it.

    Its not without its flaws: It has a heavy trigger, its not the most ergonomic gun to use and there is the lack of the bolt locking open on the last shot. However, if you need a 308 gun for the worst possible conditions the HK system is it.
     
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  9. longhorngunman

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    For SHTF? Good AR-15 and a lot of ammo. If you need to take shots over 200 yards during the SHTF then the .308 would be more ideal. And though I just got a PTR and like it a lot, in a SHTF situation it's lack of a bolt hold open, bad charging handle location, and cumbersome mag release make me inclined to go with the FAL for SHTF.
     
  10. steveracer

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    Try this:

    Get an AR-15, and an expect that to meet almost all your needs. Get an NEF Handi-rifle, scoped, in .308 for longer-range use. These are fantastically accurate at long range, and very inexpensive and break down for easy transport.
    I'd think that if this didn't meet your needs (two rifles is kind of a pain in the a$$) get the PTR-91K. 16" .308. Great rifle, and lighter than the full-size. If you're worried about the bolt not locking back, put two tracer rounds in the bottom of each magazine. When you see a tracer, reload.
    The only limitation with the PTR is that it really does not lend itself to optic mounting, and therefore you better have good eyes.
     
  11. Ian

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    Whichever one you shoot the best. I like my M1.
     
  12. High Planes Drifter

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    I like my M1A; but I havent shot a whole lot of other .308's. I didnt care for my brothers FAL tho.
     
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    PTR-91 hands down...no other .308 battle rifle even comes close.

    This is based on the conclusive, incontrivertable fact that it's the one that I own.

    Seriously, the manual of arms isn't the most intuative in the world, and the lack of BHO is a PITA, but the reliability of the PTR-91 approaches that of the AK, but is way more accurate IMHO.
     
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    I dont have one but I really like my buddy's g3 clone. My m1a socom is awful heavy but it goes bang, and it feels right. Those .308 ishapore rifles that have been cut down and are sold as tanker carbines arent bad either. Come to think about it I havent really fired a .308 that I really didnt like, or a rifle for that matter. Go try a few different things, see what you like best. You really cant go wrong with a good .308 mbr.
     
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    FALFALFALFALFALFALFALFALFALFAL:)
     
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    For my taste, I'd have to say a FAL. For you? Whatever the hell you want.
     
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    FAL
     

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    my prefrence would be an m-1a but the magazines and the gun it'sself is kind of expensive. the fal has simular accuracy and reliability, and the mags are much cheaper and easier to find so il go with the fal:)
     
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    I'm not planning on the excrement hitting the oscillator anytime soon. I'm just a fat over the hill guy that buys and shoots what I like. That is the M14 type rifle (read M1A in civilian form). If I did need it to defend myself it would do an outstanding job without a doubt.

    The advantages of the M14 platform are significant:

    Better sights than FAL or HK

    Better factory trigger assembly that can be made even better by spending 50 bucks with a competent smith.

    no overly complicated adjustable gas system like the FAL. The gas system on the M14 works just fine without adjustments.

    doesn't balance and handle like a cinderblock as the HK does.

    last shot bolt hold open on the M14, (not available on HK, but the FAL does have it)

    M14 reliability is comparable with the HK, but I think I'd give the M14 the nod over the FAL.

    USGI fiberglass M14 stocks are available for cheap and eliminates the one significant weakness in the M14 system which is bedding of the action.

    Come to think of it, the only advantage I can think of for the FAL is that you can scrounge up parts, stockpile magazines and build one cheaper. At the end of the day, I think price and availability is why the FAL has so many advocates.
     
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  21. mtang45

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    There is a reason the FAL became standard military rifle for 93 countrys around the world. I'm not knocking M1A's or HK-91's but seriously the rifle that earned the reputation of being the "Free World's Right Arm" how can you not say the FAL deserves MBR top honors.
     
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    It goes bang every time.
     
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    YEAH...What TX35 said!

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  24. trbon8r

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    "There is a reason the FAL became standard military rifle for 93 countrys around the world. I'm not knocking M1A's or HK-91's but seriously the rifle that earned the reputation of being the "Free World's Right Arm" how can you not say the FAL deserves MBR top honors."

    Oh no. Not this argument again. :uhoh:

    One more time for the cheap seats. The M14 was designed and manufactured through the U.S. armory system (read federally funded). It's construction and production was designed solely to fill U.S. needs. It was never intended to be sold overseas in quantity. The FAL which was designed and built by a private company for profit and sale abroad is a totally different animal.
     
  25. mtang45

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    So lets see if I have this right....Your saying the M14 is superior to the FAL but never had the opportunity to "show its stuff" because the US wanted to keep our little piece of excellence all to ourselves? Whereas the rest of the world since they could not get their hands on an M14 had to settle for an AK, HK or FAL? Poor suckers, just HOW did they survive?

    You know it sure seems to me that the M14 sure had a SHORT life for being such a superior weapon. :neener:
     
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