Had an HK91, no, it's not all that.
What constitutes the desire for a rifle? To have a working tool that is reliable, or just somethin differnt than all them other guys? If it's the first, you have to put some definite characteristics together, and you need to be able to measure them against each other to see what is better.
Just a few years after the war, the rest of the nation spent a lot of money buying them. They had more firepower and did the job. The Army stuck to it's guns and kept dodging common sense.
Now, we have the Army Improved Carbine competition, which couldn't find ANY new combat rifle that would do a better job. And, they can prove it because they defined every necessary feature, and then tested them in ways everybody could duplicate, and got numbers we could all arrive at, too.
Not, "I don't like it." That is the sort of BS that Lincoln had to put up with.
So, if someone is REALLY trying to purchase a serious rifle for self defense, you first have to specify the exact features you need and what priority they should have.
One thing you DON'T get to do is expect that "I can use the most common ammo around." because that is .30-30. Like it or not. The second is expect that you can grab parts of any gun to repair yours - because you likely won't survive a catastrophic failure of your gun. You better train on transition drills to another firearm.
And if things are really, really that bad, it won't make much difference, you will either die of thirst in three days, starve in thirty, or be shot dead at anytime because you are a wandering lone wolf who is a threat to everyone who stayed put and has a lot of food and ammo to protect. So much for SHTF - you don't leave where you have it good, and that is exactly why it's stupid to do so.
Exactly why most of these threads thru out the internet aren't tolerated. We're trying to raise the level of conversation, not lower it thru entertaining lesser ideas. You don't learn to enjoy serious art by surfing porn.
If you want to learn the serious skills of survival, join the military, learn how to use real battle rifles and why they are superior, and leave the myths behind.
What constitutes the desire for a rifle? To have a working tool that is reliable, or just somethin differnt than all them other guys? If it's the first, you have to put some definite characteristics together, and you need to be able to measure them against each other to see what is better.
While everybody can and will form an opinion and then exercise their choice, what's going on here is the exact opposite. It's completely undefined with no data or way to compare anything. That would be exactly the way the Army General in charge of weapons during the Civil War handled the Lever Action Rifle - he hated it, we wanted soldiers to shoot less, and he made them use muzzleloaders to enforce his view. A guy named Abe Lincoln found it hard to change his mind.
Just a few years after the war, the rest of the nation spent a lot of money buying them. They had more firepower and did the job. The Army stuck to it's guns and kept dodging common sense.
Now, we have the Army Improved Carbine competition, which couldn't find ANY new combat rifle that would do a better job. And, they can prove it because they defined every necessary feature, and then tested them in ways everybody could duplicate, and got numbers we could all arrive at, too.
Not, "I don't like it." That is the sort of BS that Lincoln had to put up with.
So, if someone is REALLY trying to purchase a serious rifle for self defense, you first have to specify the exact features you need and what priority they should have.
One thing you DON'T get to do is expect that "I can use the most common ammo around." because that is .30-30. Like it or not. The second is expect that you can grab parts of any gun to repair yours - because you likely won't survive a catastrophic failure of your gun. You better train on transition drills to another firearm.
And if things are really, really that bad, it won't make much difference, you will either die of thirst in three days, starve in thirty, or be shot dead at anytime because you are a wandering lone wolf who is a threat to everyone who stayed put and has a lot of food and ammo to protect. So much for SHTF - you don't leave where you have it good, and that is exactly why it's stupid to do so.
Exactly why most of these threads thru out the internet aren't tolerated. We're trying to raise the level of conversation, not lower it thru entertaining lesser ideas. You don't learn to enjoy serious art by surfing porn.
If you want to learn the serious skills of survival, join the military, learn how to use real battle rifles and why they are superior, and leave the myths behind.
