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I don't own any Rugers. And if they STILL have the policy of no sales of "high-caps" to "civvies" like me, then I see no need to buy any Rugers.

Should they change this policy, I might change my mind. But then again why should I, when there are companies out there that ALREADY refuse to discriminate against non-.gov customers (except where required by law of course)???
 
Bill was looking out for his stockholders

which is precisely what a CEO is obligated to do. He was trying to stanch the flow of prison built ordnance into this country and the flow of dollars to communist regimes. He was trying to make the best of a dire situation.

That doesn't mean I like the guy, agree with his philosophy, or think he should be sainted. It means that a general boycott would simply move Ruger completely into the investment cast and other fabrication business, and we'd be down another US gunmaker and potential ally. No thanks.

Of all the American gunmakers that have been in operation for more than 30 years, are there any that haven't been bankrupt, offshore controlled or haven't outsourced production offshore? It's a business, and if it doesn't supply a product that people want, delivers itself into the arms of product liability lawyers, or is out of touch with the political climate, it'll fail.
 
Ruger's are gone from the company and no longer control the management. Since Jr. left the company the new management has seemed more attune to the consumer. The real business brains of the company left along time ago when Sandy Sturm died - and what you had was a inventor/machinist in charge. I think he did a pretty good job but now is the time for them to prove they give a damn about the customers. I don't boycott Ruger as I did Smith and Wesson during the recent "dark" years - I just don't look at Ruger products if there is another competing brand. Don't get me started on FN and Winchester.
 
Guys...you must NEVER forget who wronged you!! Not Jane Fonda. Not Bill Ruger. Not anyone at any point that says or does something stupid to screw YOU, the AMERICAN CITIZEN over (for any reason, be it money or politics).

Just becuase there are current issues and worries facing the RKBA does not give a pass to those that bent us over in the past.

I dont buy Ruger. I buy used pinned and recessed S&W. I dont watch Jane Fonda movies and hey, I was born in 1981! LEARN AND REMEMBER OR REPEAT!
 
Gotta agree with 461, ArfinGreebly (excellent reminder about letting go of grudges, recognizing common interests, and focusing on real enemies), CajunBass, and others who can think kindly of an American manufacturer.

"Let's hang together or we'll surely hang separately" (paraphrased) Ben Franklin

Unless or until she gives Americans a Genuine Apology, I count Hanoi Jane as being an enemy.
 
I've only boycotted Ruger's long arms(I have no use for them;) ). I've also boycotted Glock for Gaston Glock's comments(actually, it's their poorly executed product combined with their foreign status;) ). I love Ruger revolvers and pistols though.
 
rust collector said it best. Bill Ruger was in a no win situation. Success in business and ethics are rarely compatible. Would it has been better for old Bill to present himself as a hard right liner in proactive support of RKBA and have the company fold? (or at least have had some of his firearms banned???)
 
Ruger has no policy against selling high caps to civilians. As I pointed out, they sell a number of high capacity pistol magazines direct to the public. If they had some sort of anti-gun policy against letting us get high caps, they would not sell them. The sole issue appears to be over Mini-14 high caps, which for whatever reason Ruger does not sell to the public, but which are easily found from other makers. Maybe they figure they'll never be able to sell their own overpriced high caps to anyone but departments. Why would you buy one given how easy it is to get much cheaper ones from other makers? MGW makes NINETY ROUNDERS, for the love of pete. What are you complaining about? If Ruger had a policy against high-caps, they would not sell them for their handguns. Moreover, they would change the design of their firearms to accept only low caps. Go around and look at other arms makers. They typically have only a very limited selection of magazines available for direct purchase, and what they have tends to be overpriced. There are dozens of companies specializing in making magazines. That's what they do, and they do it cheaper than the main company ever can. The only ones to trump this secondary market seems to be Glock, by incorporating proprietary features and chemical processes into the designs.

If you have a problem with Bill Ruger's decade's old comments, go scream at his grave.
 
It wasn't going to affect his sales anymore than the other gunmakers he pulled the rug out from under. My first two handguns were Rugers. I owned a Mini14 before the ban but sold it for a song back then.

* "No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in any gun."
* "I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or my folding stock."
* "I see nothing wrong with waiting periods." ___William Batterman Ruger, Sr.
 
RUGER IS LONG DEAD! What part of that are you missing? Sturm Ruger the company is no longer owned or operated by Bill Ruger! Man, you guys are thick as oak planks sometimes. You're tring to start an idiotic ban over something that happened a damned GENERATION ago! Why not attack S&W again, since their sellout was much more recent? Not to mention, in S&W's case it was a true corporate sellout. Ruger was speaking for himself. So go deface his headstone.
 
Well, I Guess It's Time

I do believe I'll buy me another Ruger.

I don't have any of their .357 products, and I don't have a PC rifle.

And you can never have too many 10/22s.

Yes, I do believe I'll get another Ruger.

Rest in peace, Bill.
 
Cosmoline don't you think it's time you started buying Norincos? Tiananmen was near 20 years ago, Li Peng has been out of office coming on a decade.

Come on man, stop trying to run a good company out of business, and just write them a letter telling them how you feel. That's how you really get change done.

Oh, wait, the 'sporting purpose' clause courtesy of monsieur Ruger prohibits you from getting new Norinco rifles that compete with the Mini. Funny how that works.


Perhaps the one thing everyone can agree on is that Ruger sure knew his market base - Simple citizens.
 
but I really, really love my sp101, very concealable and reliable.
Boycotts tend to harm the folks who work on the factory floor.
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well sir you must sell that ruger and buy a S&W model 19!:)
 
Lucky, next time Ruger wants to bring money to a Communist regime that is gearing up to destroy us you tell us, OK?

I cannot see how you can compare giving money to nations that that are building up their military to kill us to something a dead president to an American firearm manufacturer said. But you go support China, Lucky. And quit complaining about inflated ammo prices caused by your beloved People's Republic of China.
 
re: boycott

Yeah, I think a boycott of Norinco or Russia or other Commbloc nations would be more in order. They don't think civilians should even own guns, much less high cap ones. They simply sell here as an economic plan.
Bill Ruger sold LOTS of Mini 14s with high cap mags. He gave us an inexpensive .223 rifle, lots of inexpensive revolvers and semis. All of very high quality. He made great firearms at affordable prices.
Give Ruger credit for the good he did.
Since he's dead, I don't think a boycott would be a method of influencing him.
 
Whoa whoa revolving cylinder, calm down, it's just business. It would be a little more constructive to communicate to the new leaders there vs. boycotting a company for actions done by men who have now passed from this earth, or actions that haven't even happened yet.

Besides I really like my CQ311, and Boycotts tend to harm the folks who work on the factory floor.

I SHALL BOYCOTT just as soon as I buy my M305. And the sooner the better!

For gosh sake their most despotic and aggressive leaders are dead! Get over it all ready! Why not spend some energy on the people who actually want to take away your guns rather than the people who are putting quality ones on the shelves.

The firearms industry needs to stay alive and stay healthy.

Norinco is a talented gun maker who also happened to have ties to leaders with antiquated political views about the RKBA. Most of them are dead now. Get over it.

If I decided to cancel a friendship because I didn't agree with someone 100% of the time I'd be alone, in the dark, with my moth collection and a carton of fig newtons.

And it's not like Ruger ever sold rifles to regimes of questionable merits...
 
You people are CRAZY.

Ruger didn't start all this.. Your government officials did this after the police got tired of all the yahoo's with the machine guns and pistols walking the streets.

You can even read articles where the one time the police had to take over a gun shop to get weapons to fight against the bad guys after they ran out of ammo and was outgunned.

This has all been brought upon by yourselves.. Watching too much RAMBO on Tv and at the movie house.

I had a Beretta with one of them big magazines and it was uglier than a mud fence. I sold it and the person that bought it - probably did so just to get the magazine...

There isn't anyone out there that needs more than 6 shots to get the job done. Not even John Wayne had to take more than that..

The gun manufacturers didn't come right out and say - today we are going to stop making large capacity magazines.. They were told - as of today you are going to have to stop making large capacity magazines.. And that was some 6 - 8 years ago when they did it...

And it took you until today to find that out? Where have you been?
 
The time to have fought back was when this all started, not 18 years later. We have nothing to gain now. Also, Ruger sells their high cap mags for the Mini-14 to the public now, so apparently some saner heads are running things. I know I was really mad at the time too, but as usual, everyone just sat back and let it happen without resistance.
 
Clarence222,
Boycott Ruger? (Boycott is spelled with two ts by the way :neener: ). Ummm, no.
It's obvious that Ruger wanted to spank Glock when they cleaned his clock with their wonderful product called the Glock 17. So it sounds like an ill-advised business decision.

Ruger is the only American company offering a full product line from rifles, to pistols, revolvers, and shotguns. I don't count S&W just yet since they just got back into the rifle and shotgun arenas. (Clarence222, Fixed the "is only" issue :neener: )

So some folks whine that they can't procure a Mini-14 with a 30 round magazine. So what? That's Ruger's philosophy, that's their business strategy. If they don't offer what you want, vote with your dollars and buy an AR variant. There are TONs out there that will happily take your money. However, I don't see the point of doing an industry-wide boycott like was done to S&W during the dark years of the Clinton campaign. There's a big difference there. S&W complied to compromise YOUR information and rights. Ruger hasn't done that. In fact, they resisted the Clinton campaign's illegal attempts to undo our Constitutional rights.
 
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RUGER IS LONG DEAD! What part of that are you missing? Sturm Ruger the company is no longer owned or operated by Bill Ruger! Man, you guys are thick as oak planks sometimes. You're tring to start an idiotic ban over something that happened a damned GENERATION ago! Why not attack S&W again, since their sellout was much more recent? Not to mention, in S&W's case it was a true corporate sellout. Ruger was speaking for himself. So go deface his headstone.



Cosmoline,
In your response to certain posters. You have to remember. In their attempt to climb up on their "cross". Some never let FACT's, get in the way of an arguement.


Boycott Ruger? No. I own six (6) of their firearms(rifles,revolvers) and plan to add another M77 this week.
 
Beating Dead Horses

After reading through all of these posts, I wonder how much could be accomplished if the time and effort was spent on trying to get some of the currently-active gun control legislation squashed instead of beating dead horses.

What's done is done. It's the now and future we should be working on. While some of us are reliving the past, the Ruling Class is gutting the Bill of Rights - TODAY.

Boycots are passive - we need ACTIVE.
 
boot-licking fools said:
"He's dead. Get over it."
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just as soon as ruger recants and/or apologizes. like S&W did.

bill ruger spent $1M to rehab his name by donating it to an NRA museum. maybe that's enough to distract some of you out there, but if he wanted my business, he would have given the million to the NRA-ILA.

bill did not believe mere citizens could be trusted with hicap mags. he brought us the 10-rd mag ban by offering that to congress. they still refuse to sell the 30-rd mags to civilians. yes, they have reluctantly at times allowed their 20-rd Mini mags to fall into our filthy, unworthy claws, but the 20-rd mag has a stamped catch and is inferior to the LEO 30-rd mag.

I will not send them any of my money, directly or indirectly. I will not sell out my principles - i.e., I will not "get over it."

you grovelling appeasers are welcome to lick all the boots you can stomach under the guise of "moving on" and "boy they sure do make sweet guns." go ahead and feed the hand that bites you. I will not.

perhaps you all thought the AWB was reasonable too.
 
All men have opinions - that may have been his

All men have rights and opinions, that may have been Mr Ruger's. I own RUGER's because they are great guns. No other reason.
 
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