My responses
Wooderson- I like your reply from last night a simple to the point no. With no personal attacks.
RNB65- Thank you for the p.s. but 30 years ago I was the ripe old age of 4 years, and for some unkown reason I was more interested in Bugs Bunny than I was Bill Ruger or his politics and business ideas.
mike101- Read my post, you will see That I am neither upset or angry over this just questioning why no one has said something about it before and whether anyone thought we might need to do something now. I DO NOT NOW OR EVER HAVE TAKEN A VALIUM. I know the man is still dead but the policy is still the same. Try rereading my response to enkindler where I agreed that trying another avenue would be the better thing to try first.
Furthermore if we can't all work together and change one companies policies regarding us, please someone tell me how in the world we expect to change the minds of congress or the millions of people who vote and put those people in congress.
Colt46- S & W I believe has changed the policy, Ruger has not.
Ohen Cepel- Like I said none of my Ruger firearms are or will be for sale.
Euclidean- How about we get the cow back in the barn then shut the barn door.
Cosmoline- Telling someone to go scream at a grave or to deface a headstone, for that matter even thinking about such things is such and adult thing to do. No wonder the anti's all think we are nuts. This is not a personal attack on Bill Ruger as much as it is the policies of his former company. Once again S & W has changed the policy.
RevolvingCylinder- Everyone on here supports the economy of China as well as other Communist regimes including you. Before you say you don't look inside that computer you used to get online and see where the majority of parts come from or any other electronic device you have used recently. For that matter try looking at the tags on the majority of the clothes in your posession and see where they come from.
Plink- According to your logic after a certain amount of time passes we should just give up on getting things changed. How much time has to pass before we give up? Should we also forget about ever changing the 1986 machine gun law? Or how about the campain finance law that no longer lets the NRA, Trade Unions or many other groups form running ads within a certain timeframe before an election? Please show me where to buy a Ruger hi-cap mag directly from Ruger and not Midway, CDNN or any other online or local retailer.
tinygnat219- Unfortunately I am not the best typist in the world, and neither am I the best speller, nor have I claimed to be. Since you brought my error to my attention with the cute little smiley face thing let me ask you a question about your post, you might want to reread it before responding.
Did you mean to put the word "the" between is and only in the second part of your response? Maybe you should reread you own post for errors before pointing out errors in someone elses post.
Blacklabman- I am not climbing on a cross never have wanted to. The facts as I have been able to tell are that Ruger still has this policy in effect S & W does not. My initial post on this subject simply asked the question why did we boycott S & W over its policies yet we haven't done anything about what Ruger's policy is regarding hi-cap mini-14 or mini-30 mags which so happen to be the only hi-cap mags guaranteed to function properly.
CU74- Once again if it has already been done and we should leave it alone and only worry about the future? Then why is there so much California bashing for their laws on guns. Its done right so lets just forget about getting anything changed. Glad we didn't take that attitude about the AWB. Since we fought to let that sunset instead of becoming permanent law. I guess that was just a one time thing?
Dienekes- Never once did I tell you what to do with your money, yet I simply asked some what I thought were good questions. I could personally care less what you or anyone else does with his or her money. Maybe we should all listen to people we have never met if for no other reason than to work together, sharing ideas to try and change some of the wrongs that have been done to us, whether it be congress, the UN or firearms company that may or may not have policies that we disagree.
gulogulo1970- I personally don't think this is crap and if you have read all of the replies to this thread I am not alone. This was not meant to ba an attack on a man who is no longer alive but simply questions to other people who enjoy guns about the policies of the Ruger company itself. They don't make a cc weapon? How about the SP101/KSP-321XL at 7" in length it is the same length as the Springfield Micro-Compact 1911-A1. I would think that should be able to be concealed, and in a .357 magnum I wouldn't hesitate to carry it.
I don't buy S & W either, and the agreement they had is no longer an agreement.
JackOfAllTradesMasterAtNone- I haven't spent the last month researching this topic that I came across completely by accident. I don't think it was just an opinion though simply because it seems to be current company policy. This is not an attack on Bill himself but on the policies of his former company. Again this research is very limited but according to the following link very few states completely ban hi-cap mags. There are restrictions in other states pertaining to what type of weapon can have a hi-cap mag as well as when the mag was made. Some cities have laws against hi-caps such as Chicago.
I would not consider that to be most states. But I will admit I don't live in any of the states on this list and have only used this one source. However hi-caps are legal to own in my state. No I don't think we should boycott voting
I personally think we need to vote more.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/NoHiCapChemSpray.pdf
M.E.Eldridge- I have wrote my elected officials and have spoke to sveral of them in person. I for one am not bitching about anyone's marketing it was simply a few questions as to whether we should continue our support for this company or any other company, or any elected official that we don't agree with.
TimboKhan- I thought we did boycott S & W and it seemed to work very well as that is no longer a policy of that company. I don't hate Ruger the man or the company. I personally haven't read any where in this thread where any person has implied that anyone is a traitor to the 2A, except Bill Ruger and I didn't make that statement.
I asked for opinions and boy did I ever get them. I appreciate each and every response to my questions whether they were for or against the idea. I have stated in this response as well as in earlier responses that maybe other actions should be tried first. What I don't appreciate is the snide and hateful remarks such as inviting me to scream at a dead mans grave, take a valium or to defae a headstone. I think those types of ideas are very childish and immature but then again that is just my opinion, and we are all entitled to our opinions. That said I see very little hope for the gun owners in this country to keep what rights we have or to regain the rights we have lost. We as a group who have posted on this thread can't seem to have a simple conversation about differing ideas regarding how to keep or win back our rights. I have noticed this type of thing on other threads here on THR and frankly it makes me sick.
I am a member of the the NRA, I vote I, and my wife and I work had for the things we want and need. If you really want to know who I blame for this and other issues, just listen. I blame the last several generations of citizens of the U.S. as well as my own. Whether it has to do with the erosion of our Bill of Rights or our economy, to many of them in general and on THR have simply not done the job required. They built shoddy merchandise so much that most of our high paying manufacturing jobs have now left the country. They let the Feds get way out of control and some don't even seem to mind. Someone said think about the kids, I am thinking about them. I have one son and a daughter on the way and they are both always in the front of my mind.
I hear alot about the haves and have nots in this country and let me just say that after reading several posts on THR over the last several months that I am very happy to one of the haves. Whether you think I'm bitching about a dead man's ideas. A whiner, a nut job or a drug addict. I can assure I am none of them. We are losing the fight for our rights and all one needs to do to understand why is to simply read some threads on THR. With all of the bickering and personal attacks within replies to the threads or personal ideas it is very plain to see why we will lose this fight in the future. I only fear that it will be much sooner than later.