Buddys Russian girlfriend shoots her first gun.

[mokin]

Good job guys. Looked like she had fun. I would have probably spoiled it by recommending more practical footware.

 

[berettaprofessor]

No fire coming out of the front of the Mosin....must have been downloaded for her

 

[MCMXI]

At the times when I saw her pointing hand guns downwards, I doubt she was covering her own toes, though video can often times make it appear that someone is doing something that they aren't due to the angle of the camera.

Well that's reassuring ... you "doubt" she's covering her toes. There shouldn't be any doubt i.e. the muzzle should be downrange and her finger should be off the trigger. This is basic firearms safety. I don't see any experienced shooters that I shoot with pointing any muzzle towards their feet and yet it's safe for a complete novice?!! This is the the sort of thing that ends up with toes missing and more bad press for responsible firearms owners. I've taken many new shooters out and take their safety, my safety and the safety of others very seriously.

 

[danez71]

Please explain to me how teaching new shooters how to safely and responsibly handle a firearm isn't advancing the shooting sports and RKBA.

How about explaining how wearing eye protection " teaches new shooters how to safely and responsibly handle a firearm ".

Last time I checked, eye protection is only a benefit when firing the gun whereas handling a gun occurs quite a bit more than just when firing it. Remember loading.... chambering... holstering or carrying?

Its her choice plain and simple. Its not part of the 4 rules. But it is good advice to give her since she may have not even thought of it.

Also, how do you expect her to work up to being an "expert" shooter one day when she isn't taught basic safety rules from day one?

Did you remember every safety rule on day one. Be honest. Your own statement gives you your own answer - "work up to being an "expert" shooter one day". You dont become an expert on your first outing.


Its like teaching your kids to drive. You teach and reinforce with the hopes that they dont have a lapse in judgement or fail to remember something and die while learning. Anything short of realizing this is just silly.


And comments like "too cheap for eye protection" is a snarky comment plain and simple.


If we cant even be polite to each other than how do you think others view us?

 

[BENBRU]

While I agree with eye protection... I'm not sure slamming people on it is the right thing. In fact, my view on it is if the Marine Corps doesn't make recruits wear it on the rifle range, I'm not going to jump down someone's throat for it. Does suggesting proper PPE have its place? Yes. Does being snarky, and rude? No.

Settle, settle, settle... Encourage, don't discourage... my faith in taking The High Road suffers a little every time I read back and forth like this.

 

[kingpin008]

How about explaining how wearing eye protection " teaches new shooters how to safely and responsibly handle a firearm ".

Last time I checked, eye protection is only a benefit when firing the gun whereas handling a gun occurs quite a bit more than just when firing it. Remember loading.... chambering... holstering or carrying?

Its her choice plain and simple. Its not part of the 4 rules. But it is good advice to give her since she may have not even thought of it.

Where did I say anything about eye protection? I was making a point about the finger on the trigger and muzzle discipline issues. Other folks brought up the eye protection issue.

Did you remember every safety rule on day one. Be honest.

Believe it or not, I was one of those kids who was forced to memorize and recite the four rules before I was even allowed to TOUCH a real gun. My parents are not gunnies, and part of proving to them that I was mature enough to have one involved being meticulous with my safety and handling of it.

Your own statement gives you your own answer - "work up to being an "expert" shooter one day". You dont become an expert on your first outing.

...which is exactly the point I was trying to make. You don't have to be an expert to understand and follow four simple rules, just as you can't expect someone who doesn't know, understand, or follow those rules to progress to the point of being a seasoned and safe gun handler.

You might want to work on your reading comprehension before you post. :banghead:

 

[danez71]

Where did I say anything about eye protection?

Since the dominate complaint was was eye protection I figured you also were at least inclusing that too.

Believe it or not, I was one of those kids who was forced to memorize .......

For the most part, me too. It dosnt really answer the question though.

You might want to work on your reading comprehension before you post.

See... now that comment only supports the others' complaints of lack of tact around here sometimes.

C'mon, what road does that comment go down?


I guess its worth repeating.

If we cant even be polite to each other than how do you think others view us?

 

[whalerman]

I'm with Didoman. The boots were perfect. A very attractive young lady.

 

[Nagant]

I always like to see new shooters being developed. And I'm not sure why people have to be so D***ED negative all the freaking time. Come on, getting our panties in a bunch because she wasn't wearing eyepro... seriously? I still often don't wear eyepro and didn't at all until this last year. We as a community risk looking like pansies if we start picking people apart for not wearing fully body armor every time they go shooting....

 

[BigMustard]

You know she's really Russian when she SMILES after shooting the Nagant.

Haha I agree. I love my Nagant, best $80 I ever spent. Especially when I take it hunting and all my buddies with their laminated .30-06s, .270s with Leupold scopes always ask "What the heck is that thing"

Great video though. Love it when girls love guns

 

[texas bulldog]

I, for one, certainly didn't mention the eye protection. That's really not a big issue to me, though I would personally choose to do so. My concern was the finger on the trigger pretty much all the time, even when the gun is pointed down toward her feet or up in the air. I don't think pointing out a violation of a very basic rule is "beating it to death," as suggested above. It's the job of the person doing the teaching to correct these things. And again, that can be done calmly and politely, yet firmly and repeated until they get it. I wouldn't expect her to "get it" all right away. I'd just like to see the person doing the taping pointing out these things. Otherwise, she'll continue to do it until she has a ND. Hopefully, she'll be corrected before that happens. Otherwise, we can only hope that there are no tragic consequences from the ND that will inevitably occur by keeping your finger on the trigger the entire time the gun is in your hands.

 

[FC]

Trigger discipline is something I teach before ever taking a new shooter to the range, usually you still have to keep after a new shooter for a few outings though. Men are the most hard headed about learning firearm safety and will make willful mistakes repeatedly.

 

[Justin]

You know what?

Put a fork in this one, it's done.

There's a difference between offering safety advice and positive critique to a new shooter, and piling on them just to make yourself feel better, and it's pretty clear that there more of the latter in this thread than the former. While you may be correct in pointing out safety issues, the manner in which you actually go about pointing out those issues will make a tremendous difference in the sense of accomplishment and fun (or lack thereof) a shooter will have once they have left the range.

It's enough to make me hope that some of you are never presented with the opportunity to take a new shooter to the range, as I've little doubt you'd do a phenomenal job of completely turning them off of shooting entirely.