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Is Buds legit?

  • Yes, they get good wholesale prices and pass on the savings.

    Votes: 156 94.5%
  • No, their price is so cheap, they must be doing something illegal

    Votes: 9 5.5%

  • Total voters
    165
  • Poll closed .
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dashootist

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I told my FFL that I'm having a gun from Buds sent to him and he went on a tirade about Buds. He advised me to cancel the order and go to a legit dealer. What should I do? This is my first time with Buds, and I've already mailed them a check.
 
He probably doesn't like them because he can't come near buds prices
I agree.
I bought a few guns from my FFL when I got in to handguns.....then I found Bud's. He hasn't sold me a gun since, and every time I go to pick up my order from Bud's he just shakes his head and say's "I don't know how they do it".
Well, I do......volume.
 
I'm sure there are complaints out there, but you rarely just casually run into someone who has had a problem with Bud's.

Personally, they have been professional and timely, and I have no problem recommending them. I don't know if your FFL's beef is price competition or a personal horror story, but I wouldn't take a ton of stock in it.

Hopefully your FFL is just charging your for the transfer, and not his $.02 advice. :)
 
Yeah, if I owned a gun store I'd bash them every chance I got when talking to potential customers. So I really can't blame this guy. I'll support my local gun stores if it is within reason (no more than $50 higher), but buds has prices sometimes $100+ less than local stores, and no tax.....
 
My LGS will handle a transfer from Bud's or Davidson's for $15 for a long gun and $25 for a handgun. I generally check with him before I order and most times he will beat their price and I save the transfer fee. He knows for every gun I buy he will sell me more scopes/cases/reloading components. Many other gun shops I visit claim Bud's and other online stores sell seconds, or returned guns cause they don't want folks to know how much they're making on the guns they sell.
 
There are a couple of local shops that price at or very near Bud's prices. Being friendly with one of the owners, I know how small his margins are on guns (especially new ones), but he makes up for it in volume. So I have no doubt that Bud's prices are legit, as there volume must be even greater.

Still, I've only bought a single gun and a stripped AR lower from Buds because my local dealers come so close in price that the FFL fee versus having to pay local sales tax is a near wash. Plus, I am willing to pay a bit more to help the local guys out.
 
LMAO !!!! :D I just HAD to click on this thread, since I have an SP101 from Bud's scheduled to arrive at my FFL-guy tomorrow !!!
This is only my second purchase from Buds. My biggest problems with them are the eternity it takes them to get something in the mail,and the eternity it takes to get them on the phone. :scrutiny:
Other than that, no major issues.
Still, if I could get the same thing from,say, ClassicArms or CDNN, even for a little more money, I'd call them instead. Buds' 1-2 weeks to ship thing kinda pisses me off.
 
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I've ordered 3-4 handguns from Buds over the past 5years or so and NEVER had more than a couple of days wait for shipping them. Always very professonal and prompt with my orders and never had reason to question the newness of the guns. Deal with confidence in Buds!!
 
FFL here and here's my take on things.

My business is set up low overhead.

I can come pretty close to or in some cases beat Buds prices on guns at retail. The big difference is when Buds decides to blow out some merchandise below cost or they got in a free gun they they can sell at 100% profit - thats when I cannot compete.

I am a Sig dealer. I can beat any of Buds prices on Sig product but some of the more esoteric things, I have trouble getting close.

Many people say that "No dealer makes money on a $25 transfer" - I find this to be far from the truth. I do transfers for Buds/SOG/Etc all the time for $25 each. If I can't beat their price, no big deal. Pay me the $25 and I'll do the paperwork for you. I do so many transfers that it pays my rent.

I have no problem doing business with them and all my customers seem very happy with their customer service.
 
I've purchased from Bud's once, and had no problems with the transaction.

Neither did my "mom-n-pop" FFL. He charges me 20 bucks.

Les
 
Not to get anyone in to trouble, but Buds has just lowered their prices on a lot of stuff........especially the M&P compacts. :banghead:
$479 for some of the M&Ps and M&Pc......plus S&W's rebate. :banghead:

Oh yeah, and I have never waited longer than 4 business days for an order from Bud's to get to me or my FFL.
 
If you decrease your overhead you can lower prices. Those creepy pics on their website turn me away.

We complain when prices are too high and when they seem too low, we're quite a group.
 
I use the same FFL guy for most of my purchases, and he offered me 10% on retail. I think Bud's runs close to 1-2%, and that's on top of bulk pricing. I felt bad when the local guy I used made me that offer. He could have gone lower, but instead saw the truth in my eyes and simply offered me a good deal on some custom smithing work. I send him plenty of business (the one local store here that has a halfway decent selection prices about 30-40% above market value on both guns and ammo. $60 for 100 of target 230g fmj .45 is just retarded. Used SIG 556 for $1800, etc, etc. Even my father-in-law, whom I have rarely seen eye to eye with thought they were outrageous.)

My dealings with Bud's have been quick and cheap, and they are running on the high volume, low percentage, low overhead. One of the downsides is that if you do have issues, you might have a bit of trouble getting them resolved. Now that is based on just two of my friends that had issues with orders out of dozens, but they were pretty upset at the delays. YMMV.
 
The reason Bud's prices are so cheap is he buys in volume and makes his profit in volume. I had them order a rifle for me a few years ago. When I went to pick it up, he had a pallet of rifles. Told me to pick the one with the best wood. Bud said he got a good deal on them from a wholesaler and bought 35 rifles. I have personally known Bud for over 20 years and have been treated fair and square in all business dealings. If he was doing anything illegal, he would have been caught years ago. Think I'll stop by tommorow after work and browse.
 
I told my FFL that I'm having a gun from Buds sent to him and he went on a tirade about Buds. He advised me to cancel the order and go to a legit dealer. What should I do? This is my first time with Buds, and I've already mailed them a check
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find yourself another FFL................bud's is aok.
 
I've ordered two guns from Buds in the last 4 months with no problems. The last one took seven days from order to delivery at my FFL, and that was over the Labor Day weekend. I haven't found any prices in the area any better than Buds.
 
Think I'll stop by tommorow after work and browse

You people who live in the Lexington area make me jealous as hell. I live in a small town and nothing like that around here.
 
Comparing Buds to Botach is just foolish.

Buds claims to have served hundreds of thousands of customers, and has steller EBay and Gunbroker feedback.

Pointing out a couple of complaints on the internet is like saying that there are people out there who think Brooklyn Decker isn't that attractive - it's probably true, but they're certainly the exception.
You people who live in the Lexington area make me jealous as hell. I live in a small town and nothing like that around here.
Their prices are even better in the store.

They had a brand new in box Beretta 92FS for $499 the other day, before the $50 Beretta mail-in-rebate.(!)
 
Pointing out a couple of complaints on the internet...

It's not the complaints on the Internet, It's Bud's response to them that worries me.

Bud's business model certainly lacks finesse.

Perhaps you should actually read what Bud's has written in the complaints.com link before you form an opinion - it's an eye-opener!


The below are some quotes from Bud's to customers who had issues with them:

"Your account has been closed, take your b.s. whining somewhere else.
Team Buds"

Also:

"We have nearly 200,000 registered customers...just no way to make them all happy...but we'll settle for the 99% !"

A company that prides itself on having 2,000 (1%) pissed-off ex-customers is not one that I would care to do business with.
All of the complaints outlined on complaints.com appear legitimate to me - they are not a bunch of whiners!
Call me Old-Fashioned if you must, but I actually expect a company to listen to my complaints and resolve any issues that arise, not just blow me off and insult me.

Again, if saving money is key, then go with Bud's - but don't say you weren't warned if you run into problems.
 
My honest observation is that somewhere between 5% and 9% of any demographic really actually are unreasonable malcontents who tend to create their own "unresolvable" problems.

1% sounds pretty good to me.

Les
 
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My honest observation is that somewhere between 5% and 9% of any demographic really actually are unreasonable malcontents who tend to create their own "unresolvable" problems.

1% sounds pretty good to me.

Yes, 1% may be very good statistically--unless you're in that 1%. Then, supposing you are in that 1%, instead of being helped by a professional company that you did business with, they label you as a "whiner" and dismiss your claim. When companies use or abuse their credibility to make up for a mistake on their part, that is wrong. Even if Buds did not make a mistake in the above case, their unprofessionalism in dealing with a dissatisfied customer does not speak well of their business model.

Everyone here has been at a large chain store at some point and seen an irate customer. Usually, that customer is being irrational and is probably at fault, but do you ever see a store manager yelling back at that person? No, because you want that person and his or her friends to continue doing business with you if at all possible. Now tell me how you would react if the manager of that store, in dealing with a customer, simply told them to stop whining and leave because their business really didn't matter in light of the fact that the company was still making money.

Even companies that are not known for being particularly ethical or generous with money will go out of their way to make customers happy--even if it means losing money. That's why Wal Mart has such a liberal return policy, and issues public apologies any time someone does something stupid while wearing their uniform. Customers go back there because they percieve that Wal Mart cares about their business.

In the case of the Bud's example mentioned above, a much better response would have been "We are sorry you are not satisfied with your experience. We are working to better serve customers all the time, and hope you will continue to do business with us" or something along those lines.

*I have not dealt with Buds, and I cannot speak as to their service. I am only making the point that it is unprofessional to react in the manner posted above, and that potential buyers should draw their own conclusions. As for the (rather biased) poll options, I do not think they are involved in anything illegal. They simply sell more guns and have a lower overhead than local stores that have to pay high rent on a store in a good location to sell guns...just like any other internet company.
 
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