Ok, came into some cash recently and want to get back into the AR game.
The requirements:
Accurate, mostly to be shot at paper from the bench, prone with a sling, and from a bipod. Sub MOA if not at 1/2MOA or less with the right ammo.
It will be used lightly for varmint hunting, though it won't be hiked far so weight isn't a huge issue.
Targets will typically be from 50-300 yards, though on most weekends I will have the ability to shoot to 600 yards and would like to take full advantage of that range (and therefore bullet selection).
Reliability isn't a huge deal, as this isn't going to be a rifle I take to a class and it won't be a HD/SHTF rifle. I don't want to buy Hesse, but I also don't see much reason to spend a premium for more reliability than most standard ARs show.
I'm willing to build or buy. I have assembled a lower before but have not attempted on an upper. I would be willing to build it myself, but would need to buy all of the specialty tools that go with it as well.
So now here is the combination I was looking at currently:
I plan on buying a plain flattop upper/lower combo, don't really care who's name is rolled onto the lower. I find the A2 stocks to be comfortable and would probably go with one of those. Pick up a basic LPK minus trigger. The trigger would be Geissele. Probably go with a magpul moe grip. Bolt, I'm not sure here. I don't really have much up to date knowledge on who makes a good bolt and who doesn't. It seems the "good" ones and the "bad" ones are priced similar. I would take the better one for marginal increased cost, though again, the main goal is accuracy.
For a handguard I was thinking one of the simple round float tubes, probably one with vents. They seem cheap and effective, which sounds good. For a gas block, again, not really sure if there is a difference in quality from one to another. I would probably get a gas block with rails on it, though I may go with no rails and no front sight.
The barrel is another area where I have questions. It seems there is a big jump in price from a Wilson barrel to a Kreiger/Lilja. Certainly the top tier barrels are better, but they cost quite a bit extra. Many companies using Wilson barrels seem to be able to get a sub MOA and often even 1/2-3/4MOA rifle without needing these top tier barrels. If I could know going in that a Wilson barrel would shoot 1/2-3/4 MOA with this setup, I would certainly save the money and buy it rather than a top tier. I know I stated accuracy is at the top of the list, but I really am looking for 1/2-3/4" at 100 yards. I would rather avoid a big thick bull barrel if possible, though I do appreciate the merits of a heavy barrel. If I had to pick today I would probably pick up an RRA NM barrel. They seem to cut chambers as well as any of the mid tier factories, though I hear their CS sucks. I could really go with any of the NM barrels out there though. For some reason I think they are a good blend.
So, what would you do for this type of use? What would you change? Budget is realistically around $1500, though I could go up to $2000 if there was some great leap for that extra money. At $1000 though I think I could be just about as happy as at $1500 and am not sure the extra money would be warranted over a $1000 setup and an extra $500 in ammo. I've already got the scope/optics side covered, so this is just on the rifle.
The requirements:
Accurate, mostly to be shot at paper from the bench, prone with a sling, and from a bipod. Sub MOA if not at 1/2MOA or less with the right ammo.
It will be used lightly for varmint hunting, though it won't be hiked far so weight isn't a huge issue.
Targets will typically be from 50-300 yards, though on most weekends I will have the ability to shoot to 600 yards and would like to take full advantage of that range (and therefore bullet selection).
Reliability isn't a huge deal, as this isn't going to be a rifle I take to a class and it won't be a HD/SHTF rifle. I don't want to buy Hesse, but I also don't see much reason to spend a premium for more reliability than most standard ARs show.
I'm willing to build or buy. I have assembled a lower before but have not attempted on an upper. I would be willing to build it myself, but would need to buy all of the specialty tools that go with it as well.
So now here is the combination I was looking at currently:
I plan on buying a plain flattop upper/lower combo, don't really care who's name is rolled onto the lower. I find the A2 stocks to be comfortable and would probably go with one of those. Pick up a basic LPK minus trigger. The trigger would be Geissele. Probably go with a magpul moe grip. Bolt, I'm not sure here. I don't really have much up to date knowledge on who makes a good bolt and who doesn't. It seems the "good" ones and the "bad" ones are priced similar. I would take the better one for marginal increased cost, though again, the main goal is accuracy.
For a handguard I was thinking one of the simple round float tubes, probably one with vents. They seem cheap and effective, which sounds good. For a gas block, again, not really sure if there is a difference in quality from one to another. I would probably get a gas block with rails on it, though I may go with no rails and no front sight.
The barrel is another area where I have questions. It seems there is a big jump in price from a Wilson barrel to a Kreiger/Lilja. Certainly the top tier barrels are better, but they cost quite a bit extra. Many companies using Wilson barrels seem to be able to get a sub MOA and often even 1/2-3/4MOA rifle without needing these top tier barrels. If I could know going in that a Wilson barrel would shoot 1/2-3/4 MOA with this setup, I would certainly save the money and buy it rather than a top tier. I know I stated accuracy is at the top of the list, but I really am looking for 1/2-3/4" at 100 yards. I would rather avoid a big thick bull barrel if possible, though I do appreciate the merits of a heavy barrel. If I had to pick today I would probably pick up an RRA NM barrel. They seem to cut chambers as well as any of the mid tier factories, though I hear their CS sucks. I could really go with any of the NM barrels out there though. For some reason I think they are a good blend.
So, what would you do for this type of use? What would you change? Budget is realistically around $1500, though I could go up to $2000 if there was some great leap for that extra money. At $1000 though I think I could be just about as happy as at $1500 and am not sure the extra money would be warranted over a $1000 setup and an extra $500 in ammo. I've already got the scope/optics side covered, so this is just on the rifle.