jmorris
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The Lee dies are interesting. I had not seen that method,
The Dillon die uses an even better built in stuck case remover.
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The Lee dies are interesting. I had not seen that method,
The Dillon .223 die has a built in method for stuck case removal. Just sayin....I would really appreciate any hints the collective can share that will help me avoid this in the future.
I do not understand the "no lube with carbide dies" advice. I used to get cases stuck in carbide dies until I started touching my case lube every 7 to 10 cases while resizing. Might just be coincidence, but I don't get stuck cases anymore.Even with carbide pistol dies, I use One Shot.
Without being overly critical, I would suggest spending a bit more time comparing your chamber to the dies capability to size further than needed.I recently converted my Dillon XL750 to from 9mm to .223 with the intention of loading some rounds for my new AR15. This would be my first foray into loading for rifle. Unfortunately, in spite of my best efforts to prepare, things went south immediately.
My process...
1 - Decap once fired brass
2 - Wet tumble with stainless media, dish soap, and Lemishine; Let brass dry over the course of several days
3 - Sort by head stamp; Check for crimped primer pockets, and set the cases requiring a swage job aside
4 - Prior to sizing, I applied Lanolin/alcohol case lube to 50 cases, and set them aside (cases and three squirts of lube from a spray bottle into a zip-top plastic bag, shake vigorously to coat)
5 - While the case lube was flashing off, I set up my Forster full length sizing die. This was done per Forster's printed instructions
After all of this, the first case into the die stuck.
As I type this, the die and stuck case are en route to Forster for removal and repair (I may or may not have boogered up the decapping rod while attempting to remove the case... there are no witnesses).
I would really appreciate any hints the collective can share that will help me avoid this in the future.
THANKS!
Sometimes it takes a manly approach ,...Like using a small base die to make sure range brass gets sized where some ARs leave it large .Why is that? Is it because someone is using gorilla force on the handle?
Properly lubed 223 slides right in and resizes perfectly on my simple leverage JR3 press. Takes no more pressure or effort than large pistol cases. So if I get one that by the time it's 1/2 way into the die and then gets very tight I just back it out and pitch it in the scrap pile. I see absolutely no reason to have to stand on a handle to get it to size. From my view that is just silliness looking for something bad to happen. But then I get all the 223 brass I would ever want for free so I do not need to save every single piece of brass. Again in my minds view brass is a consumable.
Thanks! The Forster instructions had the die all the way to the plate... perhaps that was part of the problem. I will back it off 3/4 of a turn when I get the die back.
Having an extra die on hand sounds like very good advice... I ordered a Dillon, and then bought the Forster to use until the Dillon gets here (in time for Christmas, 2025...). My intention was to sell the Forster after the Dillon arrives, but I think I'll hang on to it.
My lanolin is a 10:1 ratio with 99% isopropyl alcohol. I'll thin out a batch and see if that helps. Thanks!
Sometimes it takes a manly approach ,...Like using a small base die to make sure range brass gets sized where some ARs leave it large .
Thanks... don’t worry about being critical. I’m quite new to loading bottle neck, and have much to learn.Without being overly critical, I would suggest spending a bit more time comparing your chamber to the dies capability to size further than needed.
Are you suggesting loading a round or two without sizing, merely to see if it fits?
I don't think he is saying to attempt that, but stating that trying to size too much will aid in sticking the case in the die.
Minimal sizing to fit your chamber is what is required. That COULD mean that you don't need the die to touch the shellholder.