ccw gun?

[heeler]

tshaw,about the DB380 as well as the Ruger LCP as I have experience with both.
I bought my DB380 in Feb. of 2010.
It was a very early production version and after after 217 rounds I had to send it back for a repair because the magazine kept coming out after each shot fired.
They fixed that issue and that never occurred again.
Then after somewhere in the range of 850-1000 rounds in March of this year the MIM trigger bar assembly broke rendering the pistol inoperable.
Sent it back to DB on their dime and they replaced the entire pistol without any BS with a brand new unit.
After 422 rounds this pistols trigger broke.
I again sent it back to DB on their dime.
After getting it back this pistol that had not ever had a ftf or eject(except with Gold Dots/ftf) suddenly could not even get through a magazine without jamming in some sort of way.
And the trigger frame pin was now backing out.
Called DB and again sent it back on their dime.
Received it back yesterday after a two week visit to the factory and noticed that all the frame pins had been changed and the work ordered noted the trigger springs had again been changed and trigger adjusted??
Have not taken it to the range but will this Friday after work.
Mean while back at the ranch...After having the newest production pistols MIM parts fail yet again I got pissed off and bought myself a brand new Ruger LCP on a GunBroker auction for $239.95.
Well after receiving this pistol I broke it down and cleaned it,relubed it,racked the slide around two hundred times and took it to the range and fired five different brands of 380 fmj for a total of 75 rounds without one single issue.
Cleaned it and took it to the range a few days later and fired off another 58 rounds which not only was fmj but a full box of Hornady Critical Defense...Not one single issue or problem.
Then on a another whim of mine I recently bought a KelTec P32 and prepped it the same way as my LCP and fired off 50 rounds without so much as a sneeze or protest.
So at the end of this long post I am saying that I like the DB and certainly love it's ergonomics and sights.
But I will give this repaired unit one more try before keeping it or casting it out.
These pistol are pretty nice overall and have great potential if Diamondback can get the MIM parts right.

 

[tshaw]

Great Info!!!! I need more range reports I stead of.opinions

 

[JustSomeDude]

I beat this subject to death over the course of a couple of months and finally settled on the Kahr CM9. At about $450 including taxes, it was a little more than I had hoped to spend, but it's my first CCW gun, so I felt I couldn't risk the reliability problems with many of the other options discussed here. Too many of them were either "it's awesome" or "it's a paperweight", and I couldn't chance the paperweight option. YMMV, of course. I only have about 100 rounds through mine, but so far so good, and I'm going out shooting on Saturday again

 

[heeler]

The CM9 is a great pistol and great value.
I own and still prefer the more expensive PM9 with night sights.
In fact since my DB380 was going back and forth to Diamondback for the last month I have been pocket carrying my PM9 as I have not put but 133 rounds rounds through my new LCP and would prefer to have closer to 200-250 rounds through it before carrying it daily.
Although the PM/CM9 is a pocketable handgun with certain pants or shorts it verges on almost to big.
Still though my PM9 has been absolutely faultless in the 500 rounds I have put through it.

 

[Master Blaster]

I bought an LCP when they first came out, I have fired about 1000 rounds through mine, most reloads using a Hornady 90 gr xtp, federal primer,and 3.5 gr of titegroup. I carry Hornady critical defense ammo, fired 60 (3 Boxes) rounds of that also. No issues at all 100% function. I would recommend the LCP over any Keltec product as I have a P32 I carried for a while which would have a jam or trigger malfunction, or leave a cese inthe chamber (corrected by racking the slide) about every 30 rounds in practice. While its a copy of the P3AT ( a greatly improved one) the LCP is better made and more reliable than any Keltec product.
There are good pocket holsters out there, or you can even get a couple leather scaps and some contact cement and make your own ( I did for the P32 and then for the LCP).

In any event you will need to practice regularly with a small pocket gun such as this, so be prepared to buy lots of ammo (.380 can be expensive) or reload your own practice ammo.

 

[tshaw]

I ordered a Taurus 738 tcp for me and a 38 special Taurus revolver for the wife

 

[91 whiskey]

I have a Ruger SR9c and I absolutely love it but if you want a single stack pocket gun you can't go wrong with Kahr. In fact I shot JustSomeDude's CM9 over the weekend and If I ever decide to go the pocket gun route again that's what It's going to be.

 

[The Sarge]

thanks.. also the weight of the milsurp guns through me off if i want heave ill carry my 40 lol.

You betcha...that massive extra 10oz's would probably rip your britches off..LOL...

 

[MikeNice]

Good luck with the Taurus. Be careful and make sure you run the TCP through it's paces before carrying it. I have personally had two friends that experienced broken mag releases and/or extractors. I wouldn't use it for EDC until it had 200 or more failure free rounds.

On the other hand, if the revolver is an 85 you should be good to go. Clean it really well and oil the trigger mechanism. Then do about 75 or 80 dry fires. It should start to come together nicely.

 

[shootingthebreeze]

tshaw, my range report on the Kahr P380 was posted elsewhere but I can say that at 10 yards I placed all the rounds in the inner black target circle. At that time at the 10 yard range I fired 100 rounds without one single problem. It has fired over the required rounds for the recommended manufacturer break in.
My Kahr P380 exceeded my expectations; one counts on something going wrong but this little gun performs extremely well. It's also very comfortable in my hand.
I have also a Taurus .40 Millenium which now performs extremely well and is very accurate. Since its going through its paces I had to have the trigger replaced and the magazine release spring replaced but since then it has performed flawlessly.
Now my favorite is the Springfield Champion .45 and it's hard to believe but I can carry it without a holster in one of my shorts pockets which zips (these particualr shorts have three pockets together plus others). However, the Champion and the Taurus don't come close to the Kahr P380 which is invisible and which cannot be felt while carrying.
When I got my Taurus I thought what a small handgun but the Kahr P380 makes the Taurus a giant! The Taurus can be carried well-but I know I have it; with the Kahr I don't feel it.

 

[momano]

You mentioned wheel-guns. My S&W 442 is 15 oz. empty, totally reliable, and under $400 OTD here (south of St Louis)... I do love my Kel-Tec P-11, 14 oz. empty, with a chromed slide $280. If you sweat alot, pay extra for stainless steel or chrome or something...