CCWing into Somebody's Home.

[akodo]

A home owner has every right to make whatever demands he wants, no matter how ridiculous. If breaking those demands means he tells you to leave, you leave or the cops rightfully get called to haul your butt out.

That being said, I see no reason for bringing up personal info. For example some devote catholics are against birth control. Most mormons are against alcohol. Christian Scientists (IIRC) are against a lot of different types of medication. Often when there are gaming conventions, forum meet ups, dog shows, etc etc community members who live in the area where the event is being held will offer to allow fellow attendees to stay in guest rooms. My woman and I use birth control. She often has a small bottle of alcohol in her purse. Lets say I have medication along as well. I wouldn't bring up ANY of those personal issues. I wouldn't bring up that I have a gun either. I wouldn't bring it up because it is personal AND because 'don't ask don't tell' covers a lot more than gays in the military.

Now, if the home owner stopped me and said 'no gun, no birth control, no alcohol, and no medication' even though those are very personal things I'd either #1 give them up for the time being or #2 leave. Their house, their rules.

 

[akodo]

I don't tell them. I figure a gun is like my underwear...If they can't see it they won't have any reason to be bothered by it.

...best if you own multiple pairs

...best to change with regularity

...have mostly 'every day' ones, but make sure you have at least one that looks exceptionally sexy!

...don't expect to see it on the first date!

...it looks bad if you are always adjusting it

 

[mljdeckard]

I'm trying to remember the last time I was in a home of someone other than a close friend or family member who would care one way or the other if I was carrying. I guess I have narrowed my life to people I do or don't want to hang out with, and I have only a certain amount of time and a lot of things to do.

 

[exiledtoIA]

If you come into my home at my invitation be it social or work, I assume you are armed. If not I can find a loaner for you.
If you come in uninvited you will discover that we are armed.

 

[Skribs]

Just like the assumption that eveyone, EVERYWHERE is armed. I assume the plumber is carrying, the grocery store clerk is carrying, the cop is carrying, the drug dealer is carrying, and I assume THEY assume I am. If they aren't that's their own dumb fault.

I don't ask, I don't tell. I carry where carrying is legal, period.

Got half way through the thread, and realized Sam won it.

 

[thorazine]

Albeit most of the work I do is commercial I still do some residential work and I always carry concealed.

I just make sure it's concealed VERY well.

Don't ask -- don't tell.

How would someone feel if they found out?

Well they are not going to find out so it is not a valid question.


How would I feel if you are preforming work at my house while carrying concealed?

Just conceal VERY well and I won't know about it.

Don't care.

 

[youngda9]

I carry everywhere that's legal to do so. If someone has rules that I must abide by when entering their home then it is their obligation to post them of provide a handout prior to entering. I do not speculate if they do not allow firearms, knives, bibles, bubble gum, thongs, or mis-matched socks in their home. (Note I am not saying that I do or don't wear or carry any of those things)

 

[coolluke01]

Take someone's gun and put it in your safe?.... Are all of your guns locked up as well?

Yes all my guns are locked up when not on my person. It's terribly irresponsible to keep firearms out where children have access.

To what end? If you don't trust their gun sitting quietly in it's holster then why do you want them taking it out and handling it?

In a controlled environment taking a handgun off and storing it can be done safely.

 

[303 hunter]

For the most part, I don't invite strangers inside.

Exactly my thoughts!

 

[FMF Doc]

All my friends (and that is a pretty short list) and family know that I carry a gun. I have said on more than one occation, "If you see me and I am not at the school, I am probably armed." Of those few friends, only one is not a regular CCWer, and he is ok with it. So for me, in my circle, it isn't much of an issue. Pick good friends I guess. As for the OP, and having to enter a stranger's house, depends on where you live. For me, if it was an uptown Charlotte highrise, I might leave it out in the truck if there was any chance it wasn't going to stay well concealed and free of printing. If it was a little farm house out twords Cheroke, I would have less concerns. Situation dictates.

 

[coolluke01]

^^^ I have to take a very big offense to your statement. Just because people my not like guns or are uncomfortable around them doesn't mean they are not good friends. If anything you don't have good friends if everyone agrees with you. Where's the room to grow or be challenged.

 

[Birch Knoll]

Just because people my not like guns or are uncomfortable around them doesn't mean they are not good friends.

Perhaps not. But what is it that they are truly uncomfortable with, the gun, or you with a gun?

 

[doc2rn]

On Tuesday, poker night, everybody brings a gun and proudly shows it off OCing. My man cave, my rules! They don't leave the holster and everybody gets to show off those BBQ guns! Sometimes the leather is just as important as what goes in it!

 

[jhco]

This is America, and I have the right (in my state) to carry certain places (in your home) if I choose, and I plan to do so when ever I please. If CCWing correctly they will never know, until it becomes necessary for them to know, at which time I would think the would be grateful. Hopefully.

 

[Birch Knoll]

This is America, and I have the right (in my state) to carry certain places (in your home) if I choose

Er, no. You do not a have "right" to carry in my home. In my home, I decide whether you get to carry. As a practical matter, I almost certainly won't ask if you're carrying, and probably would not prohibit you from carrying. But if I do, for some reason, rest assured your right to carry stops at my property line.

 

[coolluke01]

^^^ +10

My house is my world.

You are right

But what is it that they are truly uncomfortable with, the gun, or you with a gun?

Ignorance does not make a good friend bad. It just makes him dumb.

 

[JRWhit]

I think common sense can play out on this one. If you carry do so where it is legal. If you are in another's house and it is discovered that you are carrying,and they do not wish you to do so, apologize as a polite guest would, and oblige their request to remove the firearm from their property. If you are in a place where you are not comfortable without,then remove yourself from their property.
If you are representing a business,just understand that if you are discovered, you potentially lost a customer.
If it was someone in my house it would be a case by case bases. Some I may not mind, others I would. But keep this in mind. If you have someone in your house you are not familiar with, they bend over, and you spot a gun in their waste line, are you going to assume they have a ccw, or that they may have ill intent? Now reverse that scenario.

 

[Davek1977]

I have to take a very big offense to your statement. Just because people my not like guns or are uncomfortable around them doesn't mean they are not good friends. If anything you don't have good friends if everyone agrees with you. Where's the room to grow or be challenged.

I prefer my friends be rational people with a decent amount of common sense, and who share values similar to my own. AS such, my "good" friends either also own firearms or have no issue with those who do own and carry them. I don't CARE to be challenged on the issue of gun control or concealed carry, because, to date, I have yet to hear an argument that convinces me that my current position is somehow wrong or invalid. While disagreements are natural among friends, I don't really see myself being friends with someone who constantly assails something that is important to me. FWIW, I HAVE lost friends over my unwavering support of gun rights. I see no need to surround myself with people I constantly have to defend my lifestyle choices to. I can handle having friends that are indifferent towards guns, but see no use being around those openly hostile towards guns and gun owners. You are free to feel how you want regarding my criteria of "good friend" but IMO, a good friend would never ask me to sacrifice my safety for his peace of mind. As for ignornace not making a good friend "bad" just "dumb"....well, we're judged by the company we keep, so I try not to associate with fools, idiots, morons, drunkards, junkies, etc. Ignorant people, whether by circumstance or by choice, fall into the group of people I make every effort to avoid dealing with on a regular basis, and cetainly not qualities I look for in my friends and associates.

 

[Warp]

Private property rights are no less important than second amendment rights.

Sums up my opinion nicely.

How I handle it:

If I don't trust a person to have a gun I don't trust them to be in my home.

If a person trusts me in their home I generally assume they trust me to have a gun, unless I have a reason to believe otherwise.

Generally if a person is in my home/I am in there home, they probably already know that I carry (and vice versa where applicable), and there is no question on the matter.

It has been requested that I not carry in other people's homes on multiple occasions. I followed their wishes.

 

[Davek1977]

I have the right (in my state) to carry certain places (in your home) if I choose

How have we gotten this far in the conversatjon without people realizing the 2nd Amendment ends at one's doorstep? You DO NOT have the right to enter my home, carry in my home, swear in my home, eat in my home, sleep in my home, etc without my permission. My house, my rules. No, I'm not some sort of Nazi who actually goes around enforcing such rules, just using them as examples. However, you have the right...in my home...to respect my wishes, or to leave. You do NOT have the legal right to carry in my home without my permission, America or not. Now, chances are, I wouldn't have an issue with you doing so, but to insist its your right to do as you please on private property is erroneous.

 

[Sam1911]

You DO NOT have the right ...

Certainly, you must acquiesce to any direct request by a property owner, and I don't think anyone's suggesting that they will remain in open defiance of a homeowner telling them to take their gun and get out. But there's also "don't ask/don't tell" which covers 99.9% of situations perfectly adequately. (The "what kind of underwear..." analogy seems perfectly apt.)

At any rate, that particular debate has been hashed out here many times and always ends pretty much the same way.

Might as well call this asked and answered.