Noticed a drunk CCW'ing- what to do

[WardenWolf]

Leave him be, and don't do anything to remind him he has it. The less he thinks about it, the better.

 

[NavyLCDR]

I would have MYOB. However, if you felt the need to do something, IMHO, I would have spoken to the manager and let him/her decide what they want to do in their own business.

I've had the cops called on me by a patron in a restaurant when I was open carrying and the owner of the restaurant did not appreciate cops running off their paying customers at all. Of course, after the invitation to come back by the restaurant, and to bring my friends, family and firearm, I returned with 8 of my fellow open carriers and their families too and we had a great time!

 

[TAB]

I would have gone some place else.

booze and guns do not mix. hell booze and most things don't mix.

 

[ArmedBear]

coloradokevin is right on.

BTW another factor: maybe the guy was drunk, or maybe he was just a loud guy. Some people seem drunk when sober, when socializing. I'm not sure what about him said, "this guy is legally drunk."

I'm not an expert in determining one's level of intoxication. Some cops have had training; I haven't.

 

[4Freedom]

Was he acting violent or disturbing people in the restaurant? Was he wrecking havoc? I know I have sat near some drunks in restaurants before who make such a racket it will drive you nuts. Well, I think everyone else's advice here is kosher. Talk to the manager, or keep your mouth shut, or if the person is a great threat to people, dial 911. IF the person is just drunk and having good time with friends and not bothering anyone, I don't see what the use if of making a scene or a confrontation. I can say though that guns, hot tempers and booze are a bad mix.

 

[RyanM]

Well it turns out nothing happened and thats all well and good but my question is if you see somebody visibly intoxicated carrying what do you do?

I would stop looking at myself in the mirror.

 

[rscalzo]

probably in LAW enforcement

There are 6500 or so state and municipal law enforcement in the state. Are you telling me that there are less than 6500 residents with concealed carry permits? As you seem to think the odds lend toward LE there must be.

Your logic and spelling leaves something to be desired.

 

[MNinfidel]

As long as he wasn't operating his gun under the influence I do not see a problem.

 

[ShadyScott999]

Keep your nose on your face and out of others.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

a friends dad once said
"if you mind your own business you'll be busy the rest of your life"

 

[ScareyH22A]

I would've let the bartender know as I scooted my party out the door.

 

[AllAmerican]

Shut up and mind your own business. Drunk people have a right to self defense too.

He wasnt pulling it out and waving it around....

 

[ScottG1911]

Yep aint none of your business what the guy is doing unless it directly affects you. and for those who said call the cops, whats up with that? let the man alone. in some parts of this world the statement snitches are a dieing breed still exists, so MYOB

 

[A-FIXER]

I have no problem with CCWing in bars but I make it a VERY clear rule that if I drink the gun stays locked in the car.

Well it turns out nothing happened and thats all well and good but my question is if you see somebody visibly intoxicated carrying what do you do? I guess if it were somebody I knew I would approach them and see if I could quietly convince them to go lock it up in their car.

Not to get on you personally but if it applys learn from it, as you are doing now to rethink it....
1.Sounds like you could be a self appointed enforcer of if I can't do it he can't.
2.I believe I have the gift to go to anyone I know, to enforce my beliefs on them.
3.If they are someone you know and they are knowingly ccw and drinking common sense says thats a no-no.
MYOB..... To a point but as said already..... be ALERT,... take an defensive role,... back to wall or knowing could turn out bad leave and go to celebrate elsewhere.... by removing the possibilty of a threat. If it was me watching what I was aware of I would not have been having a good time their anyhow.

 

[nachosgrande]

That's a tough one. I assume you think that a drunk person is more likely to get angry and do something rash with the gun. Personally, I'm a happy drunk, but have chosen to NEVER touch a firearm after ANY alcohol consumption just in case I do something stupid. If it's not illegal I'm not sure what you can do.

 

[REAPER4206969]

There is nothing lower than an informant.

 

[kyo]

I woulda called the cops. That MYOB stuff is a load of crap. How do you know he isn't gonna stop somewhere get pissed off and start blasting? Its the guys own fault for making it seen that he was carrying. I will be the black sheep of this thread. I would have most definitely called. If he was a cop, no foul, if he wasn't he is being irresponsible and doesn't need that gun.

Someone tell me the difference of a guy drinking a beer with a gun and a guy getting high and driving? If your family drives on the roads, wouldn't you call the cops? Or drinking and driving for that matter? Anyone who says MYOB is a hypocrite if you wouldn't do it cause it could save someone.

 

[BushyGuy]

best thing is i would mind my own business unless he is a danger to me then i would take care of the problem,, till then i would mind my own business...

 

[akodo]

believe me, one not need to be drunk to be loud and obnoxious.

Ever hear of those instances where a bunch of drinkers are given non-alchololic beer, and they act all wild and crazy as if they were drunk? I have seen the same thing happen with the Designated Driver.

Often when the 'group' looses social inhibition, a few sober folks in the larger crowd will change their behavior to match the norm.

Hopefully that was the case here. Guns and being drunk DEFINATELY don't mix, but I am a bit on the fence as far as having a gun and a single drink every hour or so.

 

[PT1911]

There is nothing lower than an informant.

are you out of your damn mind? that is like a parent encouraging their kid to tell them if something happens at school then whooping them when the complain that the teacher is being inappropriate. How the hell can someone say call the cops but only if someone is in direct danger (or in your seeming opinion dont call at all or you are just a pathetic piece of scum).

ever heard of preventing before things get to the point of danger or injury. A drunk should never carry a gun PERIOD. it increases the risk of accidental discharge, bad judgement as to when the gun is used, and a terrible outcome as it increases the risk of missing the BG alltogether and hitting an innocent.

I would have minded my own business after informing the proper authorities. Confronting a drunk with a gun is never a good idea and should be avoided if at all possible.

all that said, I would have to make the call after gaining more details of the situation.

 

[cassandrasdaddy]

Someone tell me the difference of a guy drinking a beer with a gun and a guy getting high and driving?

lets see in the one case hes definitely endangered some folks and in the other you imagine he might?


Anyone who says MYOB is a hypocrite if you wouldn't do it cause it could save someone.


you need to look up hypocrite

 

[CoRoMo]

I would not have confronted him at all, because he might try to arrest you for that.

 

[PT1911]

Hypocrite- A person who professes beliefs and opinions that they do not hold.

lets see... seems to fit the idea of someone who supports gun ownership, the 2A, and the use of guns to protect oneself yet wouldnt report something that could potentially hurt them, others, and our RKBA.

Drunks with guns.... seems like a valid anti-argument to me.

not to mention.. if the guy is legitimately not doing anything wrong, as it is apparently legal to carry in a bar in that state, no harm done by reporting this incident.

If you saw a man get into his car after drinking would you not report it? it Is not your responsibility to determine whether or not he is drunk, only that it may be an unsafe situation.. the police can take it from there.. if he is not over the legal limit, no foul, if he is, he shouldnt have been driving.

 

[kyo]

if you say MYOB it means you are ok with him doing it. If you aren't ok then you can call, you don't have to approach the guy. Who would drink while carrying that posted in this thread? Anyone? Who thinks its irresponsible? But you should still MYOB? Makes no sense to me. It can potentially affect you. Just because it didn't then doesn't mean it won't later.
Just because you own a gun or carry doesn't make you exempt from common sense, or responsibility. I don't get how you can think its ok to drink and carry at the same time. Is it that important to have the right to carry that you can do it in any mental state? Are you serious? This isn't middle school. this is the real world. Your gun ethics should not over shadow your common sense.

 

[DAVIDSDIVAD]

Sometimes I wonder about you guys.

"YOU CAN'T ENFORCE YOUR BELIEFS UPON SOMEONE! THEY CAN GET DRUNK AND CARRY A GUN AT THE SAME TIME IF THEY WANT. YOU NEED TO MYOB!

"YOU CAN'T ENFORCE YOUR BELIEFS UPON SOMEONE! THEY CAN GET DRUNK AND DRIVE A CAR IF THEY WANT MYOB!

Same damn thing.