Chertoff: Not 'practical' to deport illegal aliens

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Both advocating free trade and looking the other way on illegal immigration relate to a concern for inflation. If you suddenly pull the plug on cheap labor, there will be hell to pay, tanking investments, all sorts of economic repercussions. The amnesty idea was a way of letting the economy down more gradually, providing time to shed the dependence on this cheap labor source.

Really, well if the majority of the people, especially our senior citizens realized just how much free trade is involved in the medical/pharmaceutical field heads would roll.

If you suddenly pull the plug on cheap labor
Some business owners and upper management would just have to tighten their belts a bit more. America won’t crash, it just means less fancy homes and vacations for the rich.

I say a $100,000 fine PER ILLEGAL.
 
You can also expect, from the Left, a "wealth tax," a yearly hit based on your net worth, not income. If you have an expensive house, current assessment, and someone wants you to ante up three, four per cent "to help the downtrodden" (illegal aliens) that could be a problem. It would be for me.
I see an ordained ministership in my future with my assets being donated to the church. Our house will become the church's parsonage and therefore tax exempt. Or does that sound like 'Waco West'?
 
R.H. Lee said:
I see an ordained ministership in my future with my assets being donated to the church. Our house will become the church's parsonage and therefore tax exempt. Or does that sound like 'Waco West'?

And I see leftists claiming tax exemption for religious organizations should be revoked because it is "unfair" and diverts money from the "disadvantaged". The wolf can always come up with justifications why eating the sheep is the "moral" and "enlightened" thing to do...
 
Both advocating free trade and looking the other way on illegal immigration relate to a concern for inflation. If you suddenly pull the plug on cheap labor, there will be hell to pay, tanking investments, all sorts of economic repercussions. The amnesty idea was a way of letting the economy down more gradually, providing time to shed the dependence on this cheap labor source.

The real problem, as I see it, is our obsession with the American consumer. Rich countries have to be able to produce, and we're losing that ability. It ain't about shopping! We've been living off the pleasure-principle since WW II and the bill's coming due.

Wal-mart is a perfect example of the problem with "free trade." It is basically a Chinese outlet store that hires illegal aliens and sells to illegal aliens. Does Wal-mart ask whether the goods they buy are made by slaves? Do they ask if stolen American software went into the manufacturing? No, they are above such moral niceties, all in the good of offering cheaper stuff for American shoppers.

Cheaper stuff is going to be our downfall. Maybe we need less and better and a stronger moral and spiritual nation, not just people who are born, consume, and die.
 
And I see leftists claiming tax exemption for religious organizations should be revoked because it is "unfair" and diverts money from the "disadvantaged". The wolf can always come up with justifications why eating the sheep is the "moral" and "enlightened" thing to do...

Look ahead. Two Americas. And one will be one vast tax-exempt religious organization called The Church of Old America, aka the Red States. Let the socialists make and spend their own damn money.

Yeah, I'm joking...or am I?:D
 
longeyes said:
Look ahead. Two Americas. And one will be one vast tax-exempt religious organization called The Church of Old America, aka the Red States. Let the socialists make and spend their own damn money.

Yeah, I'm joking...or am I?:D

You know, the "reds" used to be a pejorative. Now I wouldn't mind claiming to be one, proud resident of a Red State.
 
If you suddenly pull the plug on cheap labor

As I said before their labor isn't cheaper, it is just subsidized by We The People in the form of free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, and countless other social programs I don't know about.
 
Cheaper stuff is going to be our downfall. Maybe we need less and better and a stronger moral and spiritual nation, not just people who are born, consume, and die.
AMEN

As I said before their labor isn't cheaper, it is just subsidized by We The People in the form of free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, and countless other social programs I don't know about.
We also pay for it in terms of lost prevention and community standards.
 
The real problem, as I see it, is our obsession with the American consumer. Rich countries have to be able to produce, and we're losing that ability. It ain't about shopping! We've been living off the pleasure-principle since WW II and the bill's coming due.

Wal-mart is a perfect example of the problem with "free trade." It is basically a Chinese outlet store that hires illegal aliens and sells to illegal aliens. Does Wal-mart ask whether the goods they buy are made by slaves? Do they ask if stolen American software went into the manufacturing? No, they are above such moral niceties, all in the good of offering cheaper stuff for American shoppers.

Cheaper stuff is going to be our downfall. Maybe we need less and better and a stronger moral and spiritual nation, not just people who are born, consume, and die.


Ahem brother, we are a nation of greed, our wealthy care nothing for our country, we ship all our manufacturing to the third world.
We import poor under educated workers in the millions, our middleclass is disappearing, most of our work is information or tossing hamburgers, we have become a nation of double speak or cheerleading (we need to be lean and mean, etc).
In truth very little real work is being done in America and in the end we
will pay for it big time.:cuss:
 
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