Cimmaron .45LC Revolver Choices?

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I have some 200 grain Lead RNFP over Trailboss Cowboy Loads ready for the Cimarron Model P tomorrow.

The .45 Colt SAA is making its first range visit in the company of my new PSA AR15 Rifle 9mm Glock magazine lower and upper combination, as well as a new 100 grain coated LSWC .327 Federal Magnum loading with Trailboss for my Ruger SP101. I am excited! The 3" S&W 686+ and the Glock 42 will also make the trip, but they may not even get out of the bag ...
 
Good stuff! I personally don't think you can have too many of these. ;)

I was gonna try to get out and shoot the new flat-top .44-40 tomorrow but I have a good bit of momentum on a leather project that might take priority.
 
35 Whelen said:
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Brian Pearce of Handloader magazine recently mentioned that Uberti revolvers now come with cylinders that are .020" larger in diameter than the old ones, and that the have a removable recoil plate. il.bill would you check yours when it comes in and see if it's one of the newer models with these features?
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Not sure what the removable recoil plate means. The cylinder does have a sleeve that slides out the front. Here is a picture of that and the inside recoil end (?) of the frame.

CYL_PIN.jpeg REAR _PLATE2.jpeg REAR_PLATE1.jpeg
 
I replaced my base pin screw with a knurled thumb screw. Over the threads of it I slipped a very small rubber o-ring. The o-ring jeeps the screw from backing out.

35W
 
il.bill

Nice choice with the Cimarron Model P! Appears to have been well built with a great overall fit and finish. Hope your range report is equally as good as your gun looks!
 
Please be advised that the Cattleman II has different lock work from original.
The firing pin is now retractable and there is no longer a safety notch.
The good thing is the older parts will fit into the Cattleman II and the
revolver will function as original, that is four clicks.
 
I too was wondering what the "removable recoil plate" is/was. I never heard the firing pin bushing referred by that name. Did it come about when the manufacturers started making the bushings non-removable?

Dave
 
As to the recoil plate, a.k.a. the firing pin bushing, I had an early Uberti (ca. 1975) Cattleman .44 Magnum, which lacked the recoil plate. The firing pin raised a small crater around the firing pin hole after several shots had been fired.
The primer would flow back around this crater and bind up cylinder rotation. Later guns still don't have this bushing, but I've yet to have any such problem again.

Bob Wright
 
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Tried to get a closer picture of the firing pin hole / recoil plate. It sure does NOT look like there is any distinct pressed-in replaceable bushing there to me ...

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Nearly 99% of the cartridges fired in this Cimarron will probably be Trail Boss loaded 'Cowboy Loads', so I do not expect a problem in this area.
 
I only read of the firing pin bushing a couple of months ago, so it's entirely possible that those with said bushing are jut beginning to hit dealers shelves.

35W
 
My first day at the range with this six-shooter was a blast! I kept the distance to target short for the most part, although I did 'plink' the metal plate hanging at 50 yards a couple of times. I was shooting 200 grain lead RNFP Missouri Bullets over 6.2 grains of Trail Boss.

Here is a representative target of 12 shots from 25 feet -

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This revolver feels very good in hand and very nice while shooting. I think I can go from there!
 
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Only one issue has me wondering about my Cimarron Model P - how will I get along with the seemingly oversized round Ejector Rod handle? I never noticed just how large the diameter of that button is until I took the revolver in hand. It seems that more of a half-moon shape (like on every other single-action revolver I have) would be altogether slicker going in and out of a holster.

On the other hand, I do not even own a holster for any of my SAA type revolvers, and that big (I mean, BIG) round handle is very, very comfortable and effective when in actual use ejecting spent cases.

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The bullseye style ejector was the original when Colt brought out the SAA. I'm not sure when Colt went to the "half-moon" ejector but my fuzzy memory is it was in the mid to late 1880s. The bullseye ejector is very much in keeping with the black powder frame shown in the picture above. When I was shooting black powder cartridges in original 19th Century SAAs in cowboy action from 1985 to 1994, the bullseye ejectors never interfered with holstering or drawing from original styled (Mexican loop) holsters.

Dave
 
As Dave posted, the bullseye ejector was on the earliest SAA's. It went away in favor of the more familiar crescent ejector about the same time as the blackpowder frame (set screw basepin retention to spring loaded crosspin) around 1896. I have a preference for the bullseye ejector and have yet to have an issue with holster fitment.
 
il.bill said:
Only one issue has me wondering about my Cimarron Model P - how will I get along with the seemingly oversized round Ejector Rod handle? I never noticed just how large the diameter of that button is until I took the revolver in hand. It seems that more of a half-moon shape (like on every other single-action revolver I have) would be altogether slicker going in and out of a holster.

On the other hand, I do not even own a holster for any of my SAA type revolvers, and that big (I mean, BIG) round handle is very, very comfortable and effective when in actual use ejecting spent cases.

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Tired of the thing dragging in the holster, I finally gave in and just replaced mine with a half-moon style ejector rod. VTI has them for $28.50. While you're there, scroll down to Item #354 and look at the knurled base pin screw for $6.50.

35W
 
You did well with the Old Model frame Model P. The others including Uberti Cattleman have got the new firing pin hammer safety in them. They are not the same as the original SAA like the Cimarron Old Model P is.
 
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I don't try to discern all the different models. My personal preference is typically Uberti-made, no transfer bar or floating firing pin nonsense and the crosspin frame with 2nd generation style squared off sights.

I have to disagree about octagon barrels, they are the coolest thing since sliced bread on the right sixgun. Got another on the way. Some of the Cimarron models have the longer 1860 Army grip frame and that is a big plus to me.

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Not to mention being totally historically correct for models other than the SAA, so not exactly a foreign concept. :confused:

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Just got my ElMalo with octo. barrel and love the look .After all it is not a Colt orig. It's a copy and a dang good one even with the octa barrel .
 
I shot my Cimarron Model P again yesterday and it was sweet!

The El Malo was hard to eliminate from consideration - even is it is not 'correct' to an SAA Revolver, the Octagon Barrel sure looks neat. Sorcerer1, can you conjure up a picture to post?
 
Black powder cartridges will bless you with the pure experience if history plays any role in your choice of revolvers.
 
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