Citizen aids cop, shoots attacker (multiple threads merged)

[sheep]

Good shoot

This is a good sign. I have read so many postings about someone who was clearly justified but still got charged with some sort of violation (and this persons family might still stir things up). In my opinion if the shoot was clean, much of what lead up to the point is not important. I think that having the officer there probably helped the situation as to clearing up some of the questions that come right after - but our society needs to get to the point where a good citizen is just as "trustworthy" as a LEO.. and hopefuly just as effective at dealing with situations as they are.

Oh, and this is my first post.

 

[Hawkman]

NAACP is calling for an investigation. Good Samaritan may yet regret helping out...

 

[pete f]

family is pulling the race card. Asked the NAACP to look in to it as their representative.

 

[Lupinus]

naacp.....why does this not surprise me.

your kid was a criminal who attacked a cop lady, get with reality.

 

[Rockstar]

The facts of this case, as published, MUST be incorrect, as the Brain Trust of the Western World, the NAACP, is now asking for an investigation, since racial bias MUST have been involved in the shooting of this outstanding young entrepreneur.

 

[CO Slacker]

Good Article, thanks for posting it. I hope this guy doesn't have to go through a lot of crap. Sounds like he did the right thing coming to the aid of an officer in trouble.

 

[NineseveN]

Hmmm, this is an odd story. I gotta find some more info. So far, hard to blame the guy for shooting the perp on top of the cop.

 

[Preacherman]

Multiple threads merged.

 

[PCGS65]

Other friends said Temple, a 1999 graduate of Glen Oaks High School, was a quiet man.

According to court records, Temple was on probation for simple battery and simple damage to property at the time of his death.

A case against him also was pending involving counts of simple battery, simple trespassing and simple criminal damage to property, according to records at the Clerk of Court’s office.

Sounds like to me Temple can be buried in a simple cemetery.
One other thing, if it wasn't a LEO in disstress you bet your life there would be charges. Based on was or wasn't his life in danger?

 

[LawDog]

One other thing, if it wasn't a LEO in disstress you bet your life there would be charges.

In Louisiana?

LawDog

 

[Autolycus]

You wouldn't like Texans very much then.....

Most of my family is in El Paso or San Antonio. Thats the generalization that is made about people like us who enjoy guns.

 

[Autolycus]

Amazing, I thought this was supposed to be "The High Road"


EDIT: I may be mistaken about your post cracked butt. However, it comes across as a racially biased. If your post was sarcastic and not racist then you have my apologies.

This is the way I felt.

 

[Autolycus]

Out on a witch hunt for the xenophobes...?

The article referred to the dead man as a "local business man" and then by his name, "George Temple II." The article did not refer to George Temple II as a "local black man," or any other minority.

Your own typecasts have made you presuppose the story is about a minority - and therefore accuse another’s comments of containing bigotry - again due to your own stereotypes.

Neat.

The other article I posted showed a picture of Temple.

 

[Autolycus]

Here is a strange thread on another forum about the .45 cal vs. 9mm debate that one poster mentioned.

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=137285&highlight=Friend

 

[antsi]

So you are going to make assumptions that the kid was a drugdealer because he owned an audio business and drove a Benz?

I would wait and see the entire story before passing judgment on the character of the guy.

I didn't read the comment that way. I read it as:
1) guy gets pulled over for a traffic ticket and goes Rambo on the cop
2) not rational behavior at all - dude was probably on drugs
3) drug user + expensive car + business owner = business is a front for drug dealing

Sure, it's speculative. Going rodeo on the cop was the behavior that raises an index of suspicion for drugs being involved. The record is another issue, and it appears that he kept attacking the cop after being shot multiple times... it's suspicious.

And though it may be premature to convict the guy of being a drug dealer, I feel pretty secure in passing judgement on his character based on his priors and the behavior we know about. I don't think he was a nice man. I would not be happy about my daughter dating him.

 

[XavierBreath]

It seems Temple was trying to bribe Officer Harrison, and thus had committed a felony.

When the fight began, Officer Harrison was arresting a felon for bribery.

An eyewitness account.

 

[A. Patriot]

Here is an article from "The Advocate" about the autopsy results:

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/2446532.html


Summary:

No drugs or alcohol, the officer's 40 cal would not have been fatal. All of the 45 cal body shots would have been fatal.

 

[NineseveN]

I wonder what ammo was used? Not all rounds are equal.

 

[A. Patriot]

UPDATE !!

http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/2831986.html


No one charged in motorist’s death

Civilian shot Temple as he fought BR officer

By ADRIAN ANGELETTE
Advocate staff writer
Published: May 19, 2006

A grand jury Thursday decided against charging anyone in the death of motorist George Temple II, shot and killed by a civilian Feb. 17 while fighting with a police officer. (continues on web page)

 

[Manedwolf]

But what's with that article? It calls the perp a "shooting victim", and has a lovey portrait picture of him with his sisters.

And WHY this line?! "Temple was black. Harrison and Stephens are white."

 

[Henry Bowman]

God protect me from ever earning the label "motorist."

 

[Erebus]

Investigators are unsure if the shots that killed the victim

What victim? There were no victims killed in this incident!!

Temple’s friend, Willie Parker, said Temple liked to box

Cop needs to spend more time at range

If he was trying to arrest him at the time the fight broke out he didn't have much chance for a good shot. And close range fighting with a boxer doesn't bode well for the officer.

Stephens had a concealed handgun license, Phares said.
Phares said that investigators found a handgun in Temple’s car,

Interesting they found it important to find out if the GS had a permit but not the perp.

According to court records, Temple was on probation for simple battery and simple damage to property at the time of his death. A case against him also was pending involving counts of simple battery, simple trespassing and simple criminal damage to property, according to records at the Clerk of Court’s office.

Me thinks I see a pattern of offensive abusive behavior.

And WHY this line?! "Temple was black. Harrison and Stephens are white."

Here's why

family is pulling the race card. Asked the NAACP to look in to it as their representative.

It's called Race Baiting. The press loves it. It gets everyone reading their tripe.

 

[tuckerdog1]

I get weary of reading about these shootings, where the perp is fighting with police, gets shot, and his friends, family & whatever race based orginization rallies around his ethnic group, start going on about how it's the fault of the police.

Here's an idea. Don't fight with police, and they won't shoot you.

Tuckerdog1

 

[A. Patriot]

Quote:
Cop needs to spend more time at range. If he was trying to arrest him at the time the fight broke out he didn't have much chance for a good shot. And close range fighting with a boxer doesn't bode well for the officer.

Actually, according to prior stories in The Advocate, the perp had the officer down on the ground pounding his face in when the officer fired his weapon and hit the perp once.

 

[txgho1911]

Bias so clear.

I have read these articles and now it looks like some may be offlined by the paper.

Kimberly Vetter
That article or at least the link to her article doesn't work for me. Maybe no connection. I think as this was the first story posted it is incomplete as compared to total substance.
Next article that I see by her is filled with info like she copied everything she could find to date without comentary.
This writer I must say for content and bias was neutral and that neutrality is something many people are starving for in information.

BRETT TROXLER
His article I think is short and not very informative. This article did not seem to contain any emotion or color refrence to indicate bias.

ADRIAN ANGELETTE
Wrote about the skin color of both shooters and the entire grand jury. This grand jury was half white and half black. Story is part rundown of grand jury activities and number of witnesses heard. LEO and lawyer statements where quoted though how accurate only the speakers know. Gives a run down of attampting to contact NAACP and every black clergy member in the area.
This is the bias and race bait in BR.