dondavis3
Member
+1 christcorp
Thanks for the tip.
Thanks for the tip.
I would sum up the entire Kel Tec line with that quote, based on my experience with them.Joe Demko said:There are better choices out there.
The P-11 however has 3 more rounds in the chamber.
And what if the guy doesn't want money? Do you know how many gangs want recruits to injure or kill a man as an initiation into their gang? a whole friggin lot. So don't talk about shootouts like they're "Gunfights" and that gunfights "never happen"First of all, screw competition. That is a totally different purpose and functionality. I'm not taking my 66 mustang to the mountains to haul firewood either.
2nd; gun fights? Be real. We're talking about "Self Defense". Not a "Gun Fight". If you happen to be a member of a gang, and plan on a gun fight, then find a different forum. Maybe "Gunfighters.com" has one.
3rd: You already have a major advantage over any criminal that you're going to pull a weapon on. S/He most likely doesn't do much practicing with their gun. 90%+ of crimes against another person, who is a stranger, is done for economic reasons. If the criminal needs money, for whatever, they aren't out their practicing at the range with their pistol.
4th: If you're using a competition to measure a 3% increase in accuracy and a 1% increase in speed, and a 4% increase in between shots, then you're living in a fantasy world. Next time you get jumped from behind, and your heart is racing, and the adrenaline is pumping, and your breathing is so fast you can't relax, and your brain is thinking about 10 different things at the same time; make sure that you have the criminal start the timer for you.
REAL LIFE: You probably won't get even one shot off. If you do have to fire, you most likely won't get past 3 shots fired. It WILL be over by then. Which way it goes, is pretty much up to you. You aren't going to have some measurable advantage with the Kahr over the kel-tec. Just like you're not going to have any noticeable advantage with a glock over a hi-point. Some people watch way too many movies with "gun fights" in them. That's why Taekwondo isn't very practical for self defense. It is designed around "RULES". Real life: There are no rules.
I ended up selling my Kel-Tec P11.
To me life is to short to have to endure that bad of a trigger.
It was not only the harshness of the trigger.
But also the shape of the trigger hurt my finger when I shot more than a few rounds.
I bought and added the available trigger shoe, but it didn't help.
I'm glad you like yours