CSI Gun nonsense

[vtoddball]

Just watched a scene where the medical examiner pulls a bullet out of a body and declared...

"That bullet is from a 20th century, hi capacity, semi automatic pistol"

Wow. I guess I'll never be smart enough to be a medical examiner because I have no idea
how to look at a bullet and determine the magazine capacity of the gun that fired it. But
naturally, it was a high capacity one that I'm sure the producers of the show think should be banned.

The only words that these boneheads can remember about guns is...

high capacity
assault rifle
automatic
armor piercing
sniper rifle
high power

...and to heck with the facts.

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

LOL that's funny!
By saying a 20th century semi automatic pistol, you REALLY narrow it down! There can't be more than a couple hundred different models. And high-capacity in hollywood is anything over a single shot.

I hope CSI doesn't ever come after me because one time I was firing a high capacity automatic high power armor piercing assault sniper rifle and my uber powerful 55mm (or was it 55gr...eh 55mm sound better) rounds went through the target. I can only imagine the round continued through the earth and took out a city on the other side of the globe!

 

[Remander]

I can tell at a glance whether a bullet was fired from a hi-capacity mag or lo-cap or single load ..... when I am on TV and pretending.

 

[cbsbyte]

The CSI shows are some of the worst written and acted shows ever created for TV. Its comes to no surprise that they write that drivel since the producers and writers are devout anti gunners.

 

[Avenger29]

Don't forget the Ruger 10/22 chambered in .223
Or the rare and expensive GP-100

Utter Dreck.

 

[chopz]

"20th century, hi capacity, semi automatic pistol"

isn't that how you describe 9mm to someone who has no idea what "parabellum" means? i mean, he coulda said "9x19" or "9mm luger," but then 90% of the audience woulda said "huh"?

 

[gear_merc]

I'm always pointing out "problems" w/ TV/Movies, etc. That's why people hate watching those shows w/ me!

I understand "suspension of disbelief", but we viewers expect more from a show because of all the info out there (thx internet ).

Guess I must "dumb down" my knowledge, and appreicate what the show is... entertainment!

YMMV.

 

[DKSuddeth]

imagine the snickering that emanated from me when I heard one of them say that a .380 auto was a federal issue round.

 

[jselvy]

Are there any 19th century semi-automatic pistols?

I though that the first semi-auto was Browning 1901 for Colt firearms.

 

[WC145]

Novelists that don't do their weapons research irk me as well. I just finished a book that had a villian carrying a " Sig 9mm revolver". The line went something like this: "The Roman checked his Sig 9mm revolver and cocked it once."
For all of the other things these people try to get right why is it they always blow it on gun stuff?

 

[ilbob]

I watched a few episodes of CSI a long while back. I quit because I just could not deal with the near omniscience of CSI technicians, when the reality of the position is something radically different.

 

[1557]

My wife got really interested in all the CSI shows,and I started pointing out the stupid things they said in reference to firearms and other things.
She now gets a big laugh from watching them just to hear what I have to say about it.I can talk non stop thru an hour episode.

 

[heron]

That always gets me, too; they'll pull a slug out of a carcass, a phone pole, a car, or a wall, and declare its caliber and the type of gun it came from without doing any measurements. I know how to fool 'em at least one way; you can shoot 9mm out of a .38 using half-moon clips. Let's see, what else . . . .357/.38 from a rifle instead of a revolver . . . the list goes on.
Someone interviewed a real CSI once, and he said that show is more sci-fi than real science. Hey, it's Hollywood, whaddaya expect?

 

[CypherNinja]

I though that the first semi-auto was Browning 1901 for Colt firearms.

Nope. Borchardt.

 

[Glockman17366]

I like the show...but as a few others have written, what is shown is not even close to reality...and CSI is a heck of a lot closer to reality then the spin off's, CSI:Miami and the New York version.

 

[Titan6]

I had no idea that 20th Century Arms sold semi-automatic hand guns that were so easily traceable. Oh wait, TV... never mind.

 

[woerm]

and Mauser c96

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=72950751

which was powered by 7.62x25 which was for 70 or so years the hottest handgun round around.

r

George Luger took the borchart and made it into a functional and adapatable pistol called the p-04 later p-08 Luger.

Browning made the 7.65/.32 acp patents in the late 1890's pistols started production around 1898/1900 period mainly w/ FN then w/ Colt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.32_ACP

my .32 has a patent date from the 1897 listed on it.

r

 

[CypherNinja]

Borchardt = 1893 ......... Da Winnar!

 

[General Geoff]

I dunno, if the dimensions were indicative of a .40S&W or 10mm auto round, I'd say the guy had a point. Show me a non-20th century, semi automatic pistol that chambers either of those. (and no, subguns and the smith & wesson 610 wheelgun don't count! )

 

[JesseL]

General Geoff:

Could have been an old SAA in .38-40 loaded with modern .400" bullets.

 

[1911Tuner]

CSI Miami

WE know that it's BS, and THEY probably know it. They do it to incite fear in the soccer moms and then calm them down by showing how they solve complicated crimes in 60 minutes or less.

Soccer Mmom Sue and Briefcase Bob are being entertained and "educated" at the same time.

It's entertainment. It's hokey entertainment sometimes, but it's not aimed at we who know. It's for those whom they would influence...but it's still entertainment.

I watch the show regularly. I don't watch it for its technical value. I watch it mainly for the scenes involving Emily *sigh* Procter...and 'cause nobody dons a pair of sunglasses with quite the same cool factor as Horatio Caine......but mainly because of Emily Procter.

 

[Tomcat47]

Come on gys and gals! Its babes with guns...looking good..Real good! .....solving crimes in 1 hour...recoil and her long blonde hair...

I really dont care if she is making it up as she goes....

And they are promoting the cause if you ask me....no matter where they really stand on the issue. And they probably dont see that either..

Its like Clint Eastwood at a rally for Gun Control....No body buys, and he knows it.

 

[Popov]

A couple of my favorites:

After picking up a shell casing from a crime scene
".308, that's a sniper round:
".223, that's from an assault rifle"

And from an episode with a 'silenced' AR:
"Criminals can just throw the guns way, because they are so cheap and easy to get. Silencers are expensive, blah blah blah"
I know that I have a trash bin full of ARs that I didn't want to clean.

My gf watches that junk. I had to stop letting her watch it when I'm around because I started swearing and throwing things at the TV.

 

[SoCalShooter]

I have a friend who has a revolver that shoots .40 s&W does that make it a high capacity revolver?

 

[woerm]

Dratt, I forgot Bergmann's 8mm 1897

http://www.horstheld.com/0-Bergmann.htm

all sorts of monkey motion including the folding trigger version.

r

this may hold the record of sorriest balance possible in a handheld firearm

there was a 6.5mm rimless, ungroved case (how was it supposed to extract?)
sights on the 8mm were adjustable out to 1000m!? (there was a shoulder stock/holster available)