CSI Gun nonsense

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Oddly enough, I just watched the episode of CSI in question a few minutes ago. I had tivo'ed it from early May and was pondering whether to watch it or erase it, then I thought it might be the one being talked about it - it was. (Besides it involved "Lady Heather" ...)

There is a "rest of the story" aspect to the remarks of the ME. A guard at an old west amusement park had been both shot at and shot. The shootings were from opposite directions, so they surmised there was more than one shooter involved. He was shot at with a revolver as evidenced by the recovered "lead bullet with a cannelure". That was an accurate statement. They discovered an unlocked case full of 19th century revolvers and one of them was later found to be involved in the shooting.

The bullet that actually killed the guard was later recovered by the ME. It was a 9mm FMJ. So his statement, "That bullet is from a 20th century, high capacity, semi automatic pistol" makes a little more sense when the 6-shot, 19th century revolver is taken into account. The "high capacity" part especially sounds silly by itself, but when in context of the "low capacity" revolver, it's not quite as silly.

I often find fault with CSI like most here, but the statement being ridiculed in this thread isn't quite as bad as others they have made when viewed in context. Oh, and I flat out hate CSI:Miami - worst acting and writing in a sea of bad acting and writing on TV. I doubt I've watched a single episode of that in the last 4 years.
 
"Oh, and I flat out hate CSI:Miami - worst acting and writing in a sea of bad acting and writing on TV. I doubt I've watched a single episode of that in the last 4 years."

Yeah, David Caruso's shtick worked in the early days of NYPD Blue but it's sure irritating in CSI: MIami.

Even in NYPD Blue, Jimmie Smits and Dennis Franz made a better team (IMHO)
 
I wonder how somebody can pull a bullet out of a gunshot wound, and without a microscope, tell if it came from a "20th century, hi capacity, semi automatic pistol" or from my "19th century, hi capacity, semi-automatic" Mauser Broomhandle?
 
You know, if potato digger brownings or Vickers machine guns were legal, someone would have built a pistol variant.
 
You can always tell a bullet that was shot from a high cap magazine.
It is slightly deformed, due to being "Squished" in with so many other bullets.:neener:
 
I agree that the context of CSI statement makes it less ridiculous. However, I remember an episode where the CSI scientists were able to connect the BG to the crime by showing that the BG's tool matched the tool marks on the Glock left when it was used to field strip the weapon for cleaning! Now I'm not an armorer, but I do own a G19, and so far, I haven't had to use a tool to field strip it!
 
I've seen a couple of episodes of the CSI family where there were remarks I think had to be paid product placements. For instance (not verbatim, and not sure of which CSI these were from:

"This case shows the mark of a rectangular firing pin-- unique to a glock handgun"

"Glock? That's a high-end piece of weponry!"

Or, Better yet:

"[the badguy] was using a Heckler and Koch XXX"
"That's serious firepower!"

I would have an extremely hard time believing that this is anything other than paid advertising by the companies in question.
 
If the recovered 9mm bullet had polygonal rifling marks chances are it came from a Glock, H&K or Kahr, all modern hi-capacity pistols.
 
It's entertainment and so many people watched the 1st version they came out with two more and lots of people watch them for the entertainment value.I find the miniature murders quite fascinating, not believable but fascinating none the less.I don't recall anything as blatant as the above example, but I dont watch every show.It's like convicting someone on ballastics. Only a moron would not defile the lands on his murder weapon after killing someone, if he wanted to keep it for a keepsake or something." yeh sonny , this here is the gun I shot your granny with, she deserved it."
 
Pfffffft, ice bullets FTW. :D

EDIT: Yeah Mythbusters did the Ice Bullet myth. However, I believe they only tried to do it from a rifle, a la whatever movie that was. I've always kinda wondered if it was possible to get one to work in something like 45 (much lower pressure/temps/velocity, and larger projectile mass), or maybe even a shotgun caliber......
 
"...1901..." That'd be 20th Century. Not only were there semi-auto pistols, but MG's too. The Maxim MG dates from 1885.
CSI, all of 'em, is TV. Nothing about it is real. Nor do they claim any reality.
Always amuses me when the Vegas bunch talks about a registered firearm. No such thing in Nevada.
 
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Novelists that don't do their weapons research irk me as well. I just finished a book that had a villian carrying a " Sig 9mm revolver".

I've always suspected they think "revolver" means exactly the same thing as "handgun", but sounds more technical (or professional) because it has 50% more syllables.

IIRC I've seen novelists refer to the 1911 as a ".45 automatic revolver".
 
there was a 6.5mm rimless, ungroved case (how was it supposed to extract?)
actually, the groveless cartridges extracted fine with just the gas pressure, they do however have the unfortunate habit of hitting the firer in the face(LOL). as for balance, well i find shooting my no' 3 6.5mm a pleasure & surprisingly accurate at 15 yards. i also don't know if these pistols can be classed as semi auto, more like single action semi autos.
 
you know what i really hate? whenever someone goes into the fridge to get a drink they

1) always drink straight outta the carton, and

2) never close the fridge door.

don't these people realize all the food is gonna spoil? that's just stupid.

tv sucks.
 
tv sucks.
don't forget, limitless ammo, hiding behind plaster walls when being shot at by ak 47's & when they pull a pistol from a holster the safety is never on??
 
Pulling a 9mm FMJ out of a murder victim and saying it came from a 20th century, hi-cap, semiauto really isn't a huge leap, especially coming from a coroner (ie, not an official investigator). How many murderers are really running around with Borschardts and C96 Mausers?

Honestly, I really liked that bit from the CSI episode. Most TV shows would've had the coroner showing off a totally fragmented and unidentifiable bullet, or a complete cartridge or something, and declaring it to be from a shotgun.
 
Another thing I can't figure out about these shows is why they glorify the 9mm so much. Example:
"There were two bullets in the body, one's a 9mm . . . "
"Ouch!"
" . . . the other's a .38."
(no comment)

As if the nine was really horrific and fierce, and the .38 was (yawn) oh, yeah, just one of those old revolver rounds, who cares?
What's with that? I see it a lot.
 
Always amuses me when the Vegas bunch talks about a registered firearm. No such thing in Nevada.

Sunray, doesn't Clark County require registration of handguns? I had read that Clark County was the exception.
 
One episode had them calling a taurus tip up barrel semi auto, as a 35.
 
Yeah, Clark County has handgun registration. I remember that being a potential issue when attending Front Sight.
 
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