Death Threats

[Deanimator]

You put the guy in that special class of nuts over nothing.

Well, nothing but... DEATH THREATS.

Maybe where you live, people are threatening to kill each other all the time. I avoid people like that. When somebody DOES threaten to kill me, I take it seriously. But as I said, I don't associate with people who make death threats. Clearly you move in different circles.

 

[Neverwinter]

Deanimator,thats seems like a paranoid way of thinking. You put the guy in that special class of nuts over nothing.I don't know this guy. I guess city people think differently.

Those examples are only the publicized mass shootings. This falls under a targeted personal threat which is far more common.

 

[WNTFW]

Deanimator,
You are right. It is a threat. Ignoring all the history going into it, bottom line it is a threat and a death threat at that. I have never had a friend threaten me.
Look into what laws apply to cyberbullying in your state and as some have said report to police at least to get documentation. You may have to be proactive on figuring what laws apply. Police may not be up on the latest. (Yes, they might be pretty busy)
The way I look at threats is I don't care why a person threatens me. It is not acceptable. I don't care if it is a case of mistaken identity, misinformation, chemically induced, hate crime/racial, having a bad day, wants $20, decided I need a butt whoopin or a weapons test. Because really it doesn't matter to me. The bottom line ends up the same for me. I don't need to understand where the person is coming from. I just need the threat to cease.
The good news is a threat gives you time to see a potential escalation/attack. Use the time wisely as the situation allows. Which is what you seem to be doing.
Good luck,
WNTFW

 

[ObsidianOne]

just move. i mean, AZ is pretty sweet, but seriously, it's not worth having to watch your back just because some dirt bag has herpes. i mean, who shoots someone because they have herpes.

I can't afford to move, and even if I could, I won't leave my family and friends behind just because someone threatens my life.

Don't think this guy is a candidate for a shooting rampage,and you don't call the law every time your buddies blow off steam.

He wasn't blowing off steam. Like I said, we haven't spoken in years. Last I heard he wanted to be friends again, I chose not to contact him.
As far as I know here, he's embarrassed and feels his life is ruined because of me, which again, I told only those who were affected by the situation. There were other people who were spreading the word around.
I chose not to associate with him for the reason stated above, among others. He's one deceptive individual.
We've had major disagreements in the past where he WISHED death upon me, but never as far as claiming to kill me and especially not one of my loved ones.
Not to mention when I told him that I wasn't going to meet him somewhere to fight him and for him to grow up he replied "Oh, I won't fight you" makes me assume he's referring to his original statement about firearms.
I'm taking this seriously, though I do have some doubts. He's capable, whether or not he will make a poor decision is my concern.

The way I look at threats is I don't care why a person threatens me. It is not acceptable. I don't care if it is a case of mistaken identity, misinformation, chemically induced, hate crime/racial, having a bad day, wants $20, decided I need a butt whoopin or a weapons test. Because really it doesn't matter to me. The bottom line ends up the same for me. I don't need to understand where the person is coming from. I just need the threat to cease.
The good news is a threat gives you time to see a potential escalation/attack. Use the time wisely as the situation allows. Which is what you seem to be doing.
Good luck,
WNTFW

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Ramman911]

That cop that said there is nothing they can do is not the sharpest pencil in the box to say the least.

Any IT computer forensic guy/gal could easily track that directly to the guys computer and hold him accountable. I for one love to bust stupid people when they think they took "all" the preventative measures to cover their tracks. LOL silly bad guys, they never learn.

 

[Deanimator]

Any IT computer forensic guy/gal could easily track that directly to the guys computer and hold him accountable.

...assuming they HAD an IT computer forensic guy/gal (I doubt my town does), and that somebody CARES.

At my last employer, I replaced a guy who stole in excess of $300,000 via forged checks, fraudulent checks, fraudulent expenses, credit card fraud, and fraudulent "loan repayments" to himself. I found over $30,000 in fraudulent payee checks, just by comparing checks and their corresponding entries in the electronic accounting system.

Over the course of a year, we painstakingly pieced together an airtight case against him and forwarded it to the police, who were initially uninterested, but were VERY interested after seeing the quantity and quality of our work. They forwarded it to the Cuyahoga County Prosecutor who... did NOTHING.

A lack of duty is sometimes accompanied by a lack of INTEREST.

 

[uspJ]

OP

If I understand correctly he made the threats via FaceBook, if he did that there should be some kind of way of finding it and showing it to the police. If it was via PM then ask your friend to pull up the message and show it to the police so you can press charges and get a restraining order. Only downside to that is if he was serious about the threats the restraining order and pending charges may push him to act.

Best advice I can give is to get a good SD handgun and practice and be AWARE when your out and about and at home. Slow down when you go about your daily business and take the time to look around, try your best not to follow a routine any more than you have to and be prepared to defend yourself without hesitation. Your former friend may act on the threats or he may get others to do it for him be careful of what you say and who you talk to.

 

[ObsidianOne]

OP

If I understand correctly he made the threats via FaceBook, if he did that there should be some kind of way of finding it and showing it to the police. If it was via PM then ask your friend to pull up the message and show it to the police so you can press charges and get a restraining order. Only downside to that is if he was serious about the threats the restraining order and pending charges may push him to act.

Best advice I can give is to get a good SD handgun and practice and be AWARE when your out and about and at home. Slow down when you go about your daily business and take the time to look around, try your best not to follow a routine any more than you have to and be prepared to defend yourself without hesitation. Your former friend may act on the threats or he may get others to do it for him be careful of what you say and who you talk to.

He did. Unfortunately, Facebook's chat does not save names, or timestamps. We copy and pasted it and had it emailed to my girlfriend, but doesn't really produce any real evidence it would seem.

That's pretty much what I'm doing

 

[SpentCasing]

Wow, i thought police incompetence was only out here. I went through a similar situation with a death threat from a convicted violent felon and a stolen shotgun making threats against my family(on our answering machine btw). LEO didnt see what the big deal was, and wouldnt send anybody out but god forbid your brake light burns out on your car cause youll have 3 squad cars showing up in seconds.
Good to have some kind of report on file though cause if heaven forbid you have to defend yourself from this scumbag, you got some paper saying its justified. best wishes to you and your family.

 

[John Locke]

Usp1, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Even if you can prove the message was sent by the bad guy's computer, it is almost impossible to prove that he was the one behind the keyboard.

 

[Deanimator]

Usp1, unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Even if you can prove the message was sent by the bad guy's computer, it is almost impossible to prove that he was the one behind the keyboard.

And the odds of anyone caring enough to try to prove it are virtually nil... unless somebody IMPORTANT is threatened.

You? You'll have to get MAIMED OR KILLED before anyone gets motivated. Friends of mine and I have been told EXACTLY that too.